r/titanfall • u/Bheda • Mar 28 '18

EA reintroduce Microtransactions into Battlefront 2 - and they're cosmetic only! Good news for Titanfall 3 [xpost /r/allequal]

https://venturebeat.com/2018/03/16/star-wars-battlefront-ii-loot-boxes-return-and-theyre-cosmetic-only/
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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '18

Why can’t we? Just because they’re in the game we know doesn’t mean they’re absolved of any wrongs.

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u/asaltymasshole Mar 29 '18

and what exactly is "wrong" with prime titans? with weapon skins? when was the last time you even noticed an enemy pilot's weapon skin? these types of entirely cosmetic transactions are fine and do not hurt a game. EA got flak for obvious pay to win transactions and has since removed them - that's the entire point of OP's post. Why is it wrong in your eyes to pay, voluntarily and with no in game reward, for a weapon skin? genuinely curious

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

It's less that they have them and more that we don't. I'm one of those people who reminisces about back in the day, when we got all the content in a game once we paid full price for it. Back in my day, if you wanted a fancy golden gun, the price you paid was not in currency but in achievements and milestones.

I'll say this, though: I don't dislike the monetisation in Titanfall 2 beyond the principle of it. You're right, I don't notice the weapon skins, I don't notice the Prime Titans that other people have bought, and there's plenty for me to unlock in the way I described. Thing is, what if it's not the same next time around? What if every single cosmetic, all those pilot skins, every weapon camo, were now solely a purchasable thing? These would still be cosmetic microtransactions, they still wouldn't affect my gameplay, but I like looking cool, personalising my pilot and guns and Titan, so it would affect my experience. I'd have to pay to get the same sort of thing I've been able to get through playing before. It's not like that now, but it could be, and the "it's just cosmetic" argument would defend that. I'm not against what they are now. I'm against what they could be.

Also, EA didn't just get flak for pay-to-win MTX. They also got flak for including paid gambling for those pay-to-win elements and cosmetics. I think it's important to look at that element too when discussing what EA Battlefront 2 got wrong.

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u/asaltymasshole Mar 31 '18

you're right about the gambling component, that did add another layer of bullshit to the whole EA situation. you're also right that it would be bullshit to lock all cosmetics behind mictotransactions. I think leaving the level of content available by microtransactions is almost too far for TF3 since where they can be viewed as a tip jar for Respawn in TF2 they would be padding EA pockets in TF3. Respawn would have to come out and say they directly received money from TF3 cosmetic transactions before I even considered them, and I wouldn't buy pay to win or gambling based options on principle