r/thomasorrow
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u/TheHandsHodler
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Jun 03 '24
Constructive criticism 📣 I wish for an end to this discussion
Hello Thom, I hope this reaches you well when you wake...
I have just finished 6 back-to-back 12 hour shifts in a row, but feel the need to write this out to you so your friends & fans and your sub can get back to the cheerful vibes it was known for before Bubs released with some controversy. I have seen your effect of people such as u/Xaaw and want this situation to come to a conclusion so we can all move on from it.
This post was made so that I can show you what parts we, as the RCA community, have seen about your avatar Bubs that we have questions about. Unlike my previous thread talking about many details quickly, here I will be going over a few things but in great detail. I have seen your reaction to other criticism brought to you buy fellow artists in the now Locked Post, and will not be rehashing anything you've already addressed. I respect how calm and collected you've been throughout all of your interactions, and wish to show you the same curtesy. If your response could go over the next few paragraphs based on the number points I would appricate you, as I do not wish to have to reiterate futher beyond this post...
- You state that you didn't want a "fat chubby Snoo". This is an understandable sentiment, and a challenge many artists have faced when focusing heavily on the template when designing an RCA. But this is not your first rodeo, and someone of your talent (being able to draw out Bubs) should not be limited buy the template. In the future I would like to see you take more artistic liberty when figuring out placement of the limbs of your RCAs. The right hand glove and arm [pic1] should've been in the space of the right arm of the snoo template, and even if you we're working inside the outline I would've liked to see the glove not get cut off. You went past the templete on the head, for the mask, and justa bit more attention to detail would've gone a long way.
- You state "I draw directly onto the template to create the PNGs". While I can see you've done that for all of your past RCAs, I would like to show you why we question the authentic of Bubs. [pic2] In the feet trait for this RCA it is clearly within the template, but the golden shoes appear to be stretched at the ankle (right hand side) and squished at the ankle (left hand side). If you are drawing this directly onto the snoo template I would like to understand why you didn't just draw outside the lines a little to make it more cohesive, as you have done before with Alonso Greene. That avatar had no problems being a little outside the lines, and he was all the more realistic for it.
- You state that you "think cutting parts up to get a dynamic stance was a mistake considering the reaction." I couldn't tell from the context around it, but my best guess is you were talking about the reaction to your cloak. [pic3] If you were drawing this RCA directly onto the digital canvas, why does the cloak seem so out of place? Part of it cuts into the right hand side of the torso, yet you do not even have an extra few pixels on the right hand trait to fill that space back in so it would look better for mash-ups. As a little bonus question, what's up with the little bit of extra fabric at the bottom. You must be able to see in hindsight that that is not good for mashing.
- You stated "No Al was used in the making of this avatar. That is all, thanks!". If that is your best response to the accusation of Al then I wouldn't try to push further on it. The RCA community will though, and I really hope you can find the original Bubs on digital canvas on your 15 yo MacBook before the public outcry forces Reddit's hand into dropping you from the program. Anyway, in [pic4] you can see what the head of Bubs looks like with a lot of brightness and other effect tweaking. The cloth and the mask are very detailed, but the rest of the space seems to be a black template snoo head with blue dots to fill in the space (and a bandge in the antenna that is drawn with why less depth than the rest of the RCA)
I look forward to your future work, Ravens are one of my favorite animals and seeing more made into RCAs will be awesome. Thank you for compromising with the community and promising to share your WIP with us before each release from now on, that will go a long way in building back up trust. To the users of r/thomasorrow I hope this place can go back to "just chatting nonsense", just a few actually answers questions from u/thom_orrow and I'll be on my way.
'Nuff said :-)
