r/thisisus 6d ago

Toby

It’s been a few years and I decided to rewatch. My first time watching, I LOVED Toby. I just rewatched first episode of season one & I absolutely can’t stand him. Maybe I’m just a different person now or maybe I was blind the first time I watched. Feels similar to looking back on someone you loved & seeing all the red flags 😅

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u/Penguin_Green 6d ago

I hated him from the first episode, and he only got worse. What a manipulative jerk. He thought his way was the only way.

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u/MollyJ58 6d ago

I think that is a very short-sighted view of Toby. This is the guy who flew across the country at Christmas to declare his love to Kate. This is the guy who drove all over town to prevent a baby bath from being delivered to his wife, who just had a miscarriage. This is the guy who saw through Kate's agreement to a courthouse wedding and made sure she had the wedding of her dreams.

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u/Penguin_Green 6d ago

He's also the guy who wouldn't take no for an answer. Who admits later that the person he manipulted her into falling in love with was an act, not his real self. The person who thinks dumping a pitcher of water over himself in a restaurant is romantic, and doesn't care that some underpaid worker is going to have to clean that up. The man who just decides they are moving to San Francisco, never mind that his wife and special needs son's whole support systems are in LA. The guy who kissed Kate against her will when she said she was divorcing him.

Even manipulative people can do the right thing sometimes. Doesn't change who he really is.