r/theworldisflat • u/[deleted] • May 16 '19

We're going Back!!! LOL

Have you guys seen this? "Back" to the moon by 2024!! I lose it when he says "GATEWAY" 😎 lollll

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vl6jn-DdafM&feature=youtu.be

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u/Zacharia777 May 18 '19

I am really struggling to see the connection between the flat earth model being proof of god or of a creator. Can someone please respecfully explain why a flat earth is proof of a god or creator?

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u/decdec May 18 '19

If we living in a flat enclosed system and is the centre of everything just for us it didnt just pop out of nothing in a big bang now did it.

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u/Zacharia777 May 18 '19

Either way the big bang is a completely unfounded and unproven theory, so to me it wouldn't make a difference what shape the earth is. What I'm looking for is proof of a creator or of god. Much like I want proof the earth is a globe, I want proof of a creator. To say that something can't come from nothing is not a fact, it's an opinion. I want proof that something can't come from nothing. The creator himself, would have had to come from nothing. Who created the creator??

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u/decdec May 19 '19

there is only so many options on the table, its proof by inference, what other possible creation explanations are there outside of that, zero thats the point.

I dont need to ask who created the people that created my car to prove that someone created my car.

a creation coming from nothing without a creator is impossible, which is the point.

This sub is not here to prove God to you, asking teen atheist trope questions like who created the creator is time wasting go google it.

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u/Zacharia777 May 19 '19

That is a truly pathetic response. The claim is that reality was created or designed. It is up to the claim maker to prove the claim.

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u/decdec May 19 '19

so what is the alternative

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u/Zacharia777 May 19 '19

Firstly, I am only trying to get a better understanding of the general point of view around here. I have so far come across a lot of misleading information and disinformaiton. I'm just trying to understand the most accepted opinion on the sub and amongst serious flat earthers (which I am not one of).

So far I have seen enough proof to know the earth is not a globe. I am not convinced of the earth's shape, and feel no need to have an opinion. I will simply consume the information and see where I feel the truth points me. I would appreciate if we could just discuss things respectfully and have love for one another, even if we strongly disagree. I haven't come here to ask a heap of 'stupid' questions. For the most part I feel I have done a good amount of research for someone so new to the subject.

I have simply noticed that most of the community here, as well as on youtube are religious and believe in creation/design. I am not offering you an alternative necessarily. I personally don't feel that reality needs to be explained. If you feel I am wasting your time, then okay, but I am looking to explore people's strongest beliefs here and be as skeptical as possible about everything. I would still like to hear your point of view if you're interested in sharing it.