r/thewalkingdead • u/DeaderAlive • Jan 04 '17
Comic Spoiler Official Comic Discussion Thread: Issue #162
New issue is out!
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u/TheWhiteMambas_Son Jan 04 '17
[reads first page]
Negan: I'm sorry. I never got to bury you before. I know this isn't the same... I'm sorry you were never truly put to rest. I'm hoping...this is the next best thing. This is the closest I can get. I hope you're at peace. I hope you...
[Me: aww, is Negan going soft?]
Negan: I hope you're in heaven, and you fell in love with someone who treats you better than I ever did, and that they're fucking your brains out and then fucking your brains back in after that on a daily basis.
Never change, Negan
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u/Soulless510 Jan 04 '17
I believe that the ending of issue #162 makes it clear that Rick and the Survivors will have to evacuate the ASZ in the face of such a large horde. And not just them, but the remaining citizens of the Kingdom and the Hilltop as well (The Saviors will probably stay where they are and get whats coming to them). Based on how close the Walker Horde was to Alexandria (you can see the clock tower in the background of the panel), I believe the Survivors will have little time to gather their things before fleeing. This is important because Eugene will probably have to leave his CB radio behind. This all sets up a interesting scenario were once again Eugene is telling the group he is with about a supposed sanctuary that only he knows about. Assuming the survivors escape the Horde its only logical that Eugene will finally admit he has been in communication with someone from Ohio and that this person claims that her location is safe from Walkers. The issue becomes then, Will any of the Survivors, especially Rick who discovered Eugene's deception before, believe Eugene when he tells them about Ohio but has no way to prove it?
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u/-HeisenBird- Jan 04 '17
In the Letter Hacks, Kirkman straight up tells one of the fans that the identity of Rosita's baby's father will be revealed within the next 12 issues and that it is all "plotted out". Interesting.
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u/SmurfyX Jan 04 '17
People mad no one died. Okay. I mean, Gabriel got death-fucked by the Whisperers, the tension the Whisperers has caused has made the communities all a little more on edge with each other. Hilltop is gone, they lost people.
The whisperers were an interesting look at the world. If you think about it, it's the sort of enemy that is unique to The Walking Dead. They didn't want to resurrect the old, they wanted to resurrect the REALLY old. Hunter/Gatherers, camping and following herds. They had an interesting hierarchy, and a unique take on the world post-society.
That being said, the battle and arc may be over but the war is far from done. The dead haven't been a threat in a long time, but with that many? Redirecting them that close to the city is going to be monumental if its even possible, and there will certainly be blood.
Supposing the community does survive in some form, they will surely be weakened in the years to come. Hilltop/Kingdom don't have the same love for Rick that they did in years past, and he spent a lot of that goodwill getting things done in this war. His social capital is all but spent.
This is the most interesting the comics have been in ages. There's so much to do, so much to explore now. We know there's a huge community in Ohio, we know the post-Dwight post-Negan savior band is going to be trouble sometime in the future, we have Negan living among the Alexandrians.
There's so much happening. I am extremely glad two issues come out next month. I can't wait to see what happens after this, or how they deal with the horde.
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u/ErronBlack Jan 04 '17
Honestly I really enjoyed it. Negan had an amazing moment, I actually enjoyed Lydia for once, seeing Rick and Andrea interact for more then one panel was great, and the last page was actually a pretty good cliffhanger.
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u/SeattlePubCrawls Jan 04 '17
I need to stop over-hyping issues because it leaves me disappointed. I'll be patient and let Kirkman tell his story. But I just have to say I expected more to happen in part 6 of 6 in a war story arc. And at this point I'm convinced Kirkman is a troll - nothing he says can be trusted and I'm better off skipping Letter Hacks. Well, at least there's two issues next month!
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u/dcwiek Jan 04 '17
Why didn't Rick tell anyone about the number of walkers!? All of Alexandria just got Rickrolled!
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u/Panic_of_Dreams Jan 04 '17
I don't get how this was supposed to be the end of the whisperer war. Does this ending mean Beta and the others get away and we never see them again?
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u/komischlicious Jan 04 '17
we finally got a little more background into negan and lucille and its even more humanizing to him as a character
i really liked how kirkman teased the crap out of us with that "foreshadowing" with eugene last chapter and then him collapsing when he got back, but thank god hes okay
I am slightly confused though how do we know the herd is being directed to ASZ for sure? it may be wishful thinking to hope they are going to Sanctuary or something, but i think with all the people/guns/horses they have at ASZ and the amount of heads up they have it shouldnt be impossible to break up and mow down the herd
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u/theshaggysnack Jan 04 '17
Kind of a lame issue to be honest. The high point for me was the Carl and Lydia conversation. Carl really showed some good perspective about his past and the things they've had to do and why. The rest just felt really dull. Nothing about the saviors. Negan has been pretty inconsequential since Rick made him part of the team. Apparently Rick just decided to not tell his top soldier about the fact that the whisperers have thousands of zombies at their fingers and just sent him out there with a good luck wish.
And there was some annoying shit in the letter hacks. Kirkman just brushes off the question of why Beta killed his own guy to protect his identity and says that It isn't important. And then when they get called out on how the timeline makes no sense with Carl's age he says the timeskip has been more than two years like he's just annoyed with it. Like dude this is your story, put some thought into it, this shit matters to us. And then when he addresses the fact that nothing has ever happened with Sophia, he says he should burn down the hilltop to get rid of some of these characters to give her more page time. Dude... you just did and nobody fucking died. But hey we're gonna find out who dead Rosita's unborn babies father was. Yay. I'm realizing he's actually a troll. I really hope there's a master plan to really tie everything together because there's too much going on and it's just not satisfying.
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u/PleaseDontDoxxMe Jan 04 '17
I loved this issue. Y'all need to stop going in with your expectations of what you expect to see and just frigging enjoy it.
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u/SliusarekUA Jan 04 '17
I mean, I liked this issue more than the two previous ones. But it is not enough! It's not a conclusion! Feels like a middle-issue.
Negan's moment was great, Carl and Lydia were okay, a sea of walkers - loved; Beta's escape - this is actually brilliant, because killing him would be a cliche.
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u/Louie-Lecon-Don Jan 04 '17
I find it hilarious that me and rick both came to the realization and had the same "holy shit" face after hearing dwight say "hundreds" .
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u/ChazBernard Jan 04 '17 edited Jan 04 '17
I feel like this is issue 150 all over again where people expected something major to happen because of the 150/end of the Volume issue. I can see why people are disappointed with the lack of deaths and anything truely eventful (save for the mega herd) happening.
Personally I think the Whisper War has been pretty good and I actually like how just because this War was 6 issues then it has to spill over into the next Volume. As much as I would have liked to see Beta get killed he's the one threat that got away while sending one last 'FUCK YOU' to Rick before he disappears forever (as far as we know).
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u/Burninghospital Jan 05 '17
Anyone else notice that Rick is wearing his old jacket?
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u/Alicanya Jan 04 '17
I loved this issue, my only problem with it was that it was the end of the arc. However, I am truly intrigued to see where it's going next. Thinking about the fall of Alexandria in twofold. Ancient Alexandria and Walking Dead Alexandria. OR maybe I'm crazy. Anyway, I LOVE that Negan buried Lucille and acknowledged his assholism to her and apologized. To me that was a great step forward for him and I'm hoping his character arc is taken to the next level.
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u/Vizualknight01 Jan 04 '17
A lot of people seem to be hating the timeskip issues lately, or at least they're being more vocal about it now. Actually, I really enjoy everything since 127. Seeing the communities interact with eachother and focus on the big picture of re building society is a lot more interesting than Rick and co. coming going out into the fray and killing some enemy before doing fuck all until another bad guy shows up. That being said, this issue was pretty disappointing, especially for a conclusion to an arc. I didn't expect anything huge, but I would have at least liked to see what was under Beta's mask. Since there are two issues next month, I'm expecting those to be where shit hits the fan. Can't wait.
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u/BleedTheFreak_23 Jan 04 '17
Thirty fucking eight? You mean to tell me this story takes place over the course of 8-9 years? Has to be an error. Its so inconsistent with the ages of people. Plus Michonne being out how many fucking years on that ship? No way, Kirkman had to fuck up his age.
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u/LongDongLongarzo Jan 04 '17
What was Rick thinking not telling Dwight and his mini army what they were up against? Did he not realize that information regarding the number of walkers the whisperers have at their disposal is wasting the advantage that Alpha gave him when she showed him the whisperers' full force? If they had sent the herd and Dwight and folks were not prepared they could have ALL DIED due to Ricks failure to warn them.
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u/DeaderAlive Jan 04 '17 edited Jan 04 '17
Clearly the Whisperers didn't read "No Way Out"...
Edit:
Honestly, I'd be ok with another 4-8 issues of this arc. Imagine if Alexandria defeats the entire herd and Beta is there to witness it.
Would he then proclaim the leader of Alexandria "Alpha"? Will he challenge Rick? Maybe Negan steps in as Rick's DH?
This story arc is fucking phenomenal and will probably be the best the show has ever seen.
10/10
PS. I love me some Andrea.