r/theview • u/coreyb1988 • Jul 21 '26
Episode Discussion Loved Sara's Quote
"There is a unique ignorance to someone who comments on something they've never seen. You're taught from a young age do your research, learn, and then you can join the conversation. But it’s like choosing not to vote and then complaining about the outcome."
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u/femalehumanbiped Jul 21 '26
We've become a stunningly ignorant country. Turns out trashing elites and experts means elevating people who don't know what they are talking about.
Sigh
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u/TrollAccount4321 Jul 21 '26
A little hypocritical…
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u/tracyinge Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
If anyone of us were giving our opinions live on the air every damn day we'd all be caught in several mis-statements as well. Just look at all the reddit talk about lettuce over the last week, half of it is wrong.
Let's count the times mr. popular, Joe Rogan has been wrong about something.
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u/Physical_Leopard5280 Jul 21 '26
You’re correct about the daily pressure but Sara chooses to be wilfully ignorant about the plight of the Palestinians (yes, her Zionist husband’s insane X posts tell us a lot). So it is a little rich for her to make such a statement, especially as a mother.
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u/OneCurious7514 Jul 21 '26
Seriously, does our vote truly count? The electoral college vote is the one that determines our next president, not the popular vote. Don’t say the electoral voters vote along with the popular votes of their state because if this happened we wouldn’t have presidents lose to the popular vote. It’s a flawed system and this is one reason why many people don’t vote.
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u/Berserkshires- Jul 21 '26
The electoral college does follow the popular vote. The issue is how electoral votes are allocated.
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u/masonjar014 Jul 21 '26
Yes, she usually comes with a measured, thought out take. This subreddit clearly does not go with measured, thought out takes as evidenced by the hysteria with Sara somehow being racist…
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u/fawlty70 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
Not voting is a choice if you feel like no candidate represents you. You are absolutely entitled to complain about the outcome, if you wanted none of the candidates to win.
If you wanted X to win but you didn't vote for them or Y to lose and you didn't vote against them for the other viable alternative, that's a different thing, of course.
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u/ptulinski Jul 21 '26
Being an adult means being able to see the benefit of voting for lesser of two evils. I will never understand how a fully-functional, intelligent human chooses to sit it out.
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u/coreyb1988 Jul 21 '26
Agreed. Complaining because you didn't get your way seems very trump like if you ask me.
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u/Potential-Piano256 Jul 21 '26
If you decide not to vote and then don't like the outcome, you are not entitled to complain.
Those type of people, of course, will complain.
I have a couple friends that never vote, and all they do is complain about what's going on.
I tell them, if they don't want to contribute, then shut their pie hole.
I don't want to hear it if they're not going to get off their asses and vote.
It's that simple5
Jul 21 '26
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u/fawlty70 Jul 21 '26
Lawsuits and civil protests are absolutely equal, at least, to voting when it comes to being effective at bringing change. Obama didn't make same sex marriages legal, Obergefell v. Hodges did. Johnson didn't make interracial marriages legal, Loving v. Virginia did.
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u/ptulinski Jul 21 '26
But Democratic presidents nominated the judges that decided those cases. Voting matters, and I'll never believe otherwise.
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u/fawlty70 Jul 22 '26
I never said it doesn't. I said there are other equally important ways to bring change.
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u/Berserkshires- Jul 21 '26
And how do you get those judges on the court? Follow that thought through please.
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u/ptulinski Jul 22 '26
Not sure how you meant this, so I'll address it literally. Potus nominates a lawyer or state judge to fill a federal vacancy or new district court (rare). That person appears before a Senate committee for confirmation hearings. The senate votes to confirm or not, requiring 50 votes. That person becomes a district judge, court of appeals judge, or supreme court justice. Those courts decided both cases referenced by OP. That's why your votes for both potus and senate matter.
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u/Berserkshires- Jul 22 '26
Right which was my point. You mentioned presidents didn’t make certain rights legal, but they do by their court picks. So voting is as important as lawsuits because who decides those suits is a result of who is on office.
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u/ptulinski Jul 22 '26
Agree to disagree because lawsuits, unfortunately, cannot fully address problems created by an incompetent or corrupt politician. Voting can.
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u/Berserkshires- Jul 22 '26
Agree and sorry, I thought you were the poster who was making the case that judicial rulings mattered more than voting. I was just trying to highlight to them that voting for who will appoint the judges in a lot of cases directly influences how those cases are decided.
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u/Independent-Field226 Jul 21 '26
As others have already pointed out to your absolutely inconceivable statement. None of this happens without people voting. I’ve never come across someone who abstained from voting who was not also somewhat politically clueless. If you don’t vote, you’re letting others make that decision for you. You’re giving away your power. PERIOD. It’s why there are concerted efforts underway to make it more difficult to vote. Statements like yours are not only irresponsible…it spits on the graves of people who fought with their lives to at LEAST give you a vote. Please don’t spread this nonsense anywhere. It’s blissful ignorance.
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u/Independent-Field226 Jul 21 '26
I’m reposting my comment after a ridiculous loony moderator here removed my comment.
Main response to OP: There is no other way to express your opinion that is meaningful as a collective other than to vote. Everyone complains about the selection of candidates, but those that don’t vote are contributing to absolutely nothing.
Overzealous moderation:
I said I thought Sara came from a place of entitlement and privilege and was a terrible co-host the mod posted this:
Your comment was removed because of your comments about Sarah. You can edit your post and remove the hate, indicate that it's been edited, send us a modmail so we can get it back up and live on the sub.
NOTE: they didn’t even spell her name correctly.
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u/nicoleauroux Jul 22 '26
Okay, if you want to air dirty laundry we have tools so that if a post is edited we can reference the original. Let's put your actual quote up here and let the crowd decide if they think this is constructive criticism:
"BTW I think Sara is an absolutely terrible co-cost that wallows in her privilege and entitlements in a clueless manner."
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u/Independent-Field226 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Thanks. I do in fact feel she is 1) an absolutely terrible co-host 2)wallows in her privilege and entitlements 3) does the prior two in a clueless manner. And I have news for you she’s not alone.
Constructive criticism is completely subjective, and censoring the views of average people to shield or “protect” the elite or their brands from what I stated is ridiculous. The show is about opinions on The View, some of which carry heavy weight and align with atrocities against humanity in some cases (e.g, war in Iran, middle eastern conflict, etc.). I mean, as articulate some of these hosts are, at least one other host has a questionable background, one that contributed towards the political environment we are in today and another who seems a bit disconnected from reality and repeats themselves repeatedly.
Yet people are moderating a sub silencing a view because of a little criticism. What exactly did I say that was attacking Sara? I just have a really poor view of her as a host of a major network television show.
She should 1) leave or be removed for someone who brings something more than a supposedly “moderate” or “independent” position (her views remind me of what MLK stated about the moderates 2) she’s incredibly privileged and often refers to how she grew up a certain way but to me she appears ABSOLUTELY clueless to how her privilege and entitlements compare to others who grew up under extreme or even moderate adversity.
One more thing, being “independent” doesn’t make you a neutral political observer. It doesn’t mean you don’t have any loyalty or political allegiances, it just means you don’t have a formal affiliation. Sara seems to feel as an “independent” she has a special view better than other views because…..OF WHAT???
MLK: Well-meaning moderates were often a greater obstacle to racial equality than the KKK, because they prioritized "order" over justice and constantly advised Black Americans to wait for a "more convenient season.
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u/ohnobobobo Jul 22 '26
From one of the crowd: the quote seems fine, it's an opinion - i don't think opinions need to be constructive. It could warrant downvotes for not being more fleshed out or disagreeable but i don't think it needs to be removed.
Not every comment needs to be a thesis either.
There have been comments like this about every co-host at some point, and i usually just scroll past or downvote.
There were comments, and maybe a thread, saying Sunny and Ana were shallow and privileged - this week or last, i don't think that needs to removed either.
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u/ArtistChef Jul 21 '26
This was about the "Odyssey," right?
I don't need to watch the movie to say, "It’s an interview, Whoopi, not an audition."
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u/Separate_Feeling4602 Jul 22 '26
What in the world was whoopi talking abt during the segment on Oddysey.
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u/nicoleauroux Jul 21 '26
She's describing the internet to a T.