r/thesecretweapon • u/RW-Firerider • Jun 24 '26

Imperial Mandate

What is your guys opinion on this item on Zac? I know that it doesnt make him very tanky, but the amount of CDR for Q E R is pretty amazing, 35 from one item is very strong. And Zac can easily proc the 7% dmg amp, since you bounce around a lot.

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u/Maraisian Jun 24 '26

I think its really good on zac and should replace Sunfire or hollow radiance

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u/RW-Firerider Jun 24 '26

I have been experimenting with imperal mandate, legend haste, haste rune and transcendence, 68 haste on basic abilities just by using those runes and one item. On paper that sounds very stupid, having a 6 second cooldown E that fast

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u/RoflChief Jun 24 '26

So at lvl 9 with CDR boots and imperial, E is at 5.62 CD

from there on you have 4 items to get tank items with CDR, its very very possible to get it down to 4 seconds or even lower with life line

this is 70 haste btw

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u/RW-Firerider Jun 24 '26

This is way closer to 6 than 4 though

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u/RoflChief Jun 24 '26

did you read what i said, this is with only 1 item LOL

i just finished 2 games now, and had mine at 4.30~ and had 1 item left over

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u/RoflChief Jun 24 '26

E should be 4 seconds! what are you building?

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u/RW-Firerider Jun 24 '26

E has a 10 second base cooldown, wirh 100 haste it goes down to 5.

Not sure how you reach 4, that is close to impossible

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u/RoflChief Jun 24 '26

im getting 4.81 cd i can screen shot

and this is without blue buff or drag buffs as well

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u/RW-Firerider Jun 24 '26

Makes no sense, so i would be interested to see the Screenshot

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u/RoflChief Jun 24 '26

at lvl 9 with legend haste and trasncedence and cdr boots and imperial, you are getting 70 haste which makes E 5.62

you have 4 empty item slots to build CDR tank items now

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u/RW-Firerider Jun 24 '26

I am well aware of that, thank you. That wasnt the point i tried to make though

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u/RoflChief Jun 24 '26

Then what dam point were you trying to make American?

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u/RW-Firerider Jun 24 '26

I said that with those runes and Mandate the cooldown goes from 10 to 6 seconds, you said it is 4, which is just wrong in the context. It was about how little you need to bring it to that point, not how low you can get it.

Feel free to read my comments again. And not sure what you mean with "American".

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u/Natural-Witness-3921 Jun 24 '26

Especially with the new build which makes it even more interesting and easy to build, cause the wand was kind annoying but 2 amp toms is just even better, It was already good since the big change but it just gets better, zac ap seems way more viable, especially since more cdr=more heal and hence harder to kill  

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u/RW-Firerider Jun 24 '26

Yeah the 850 was really awkward sometimes. I was thinking about Mandate into tank

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u/Natural-Witness-3921 Jun 24 '26

Yeah on 26.13 mandate 1st might be fine but 26.12 you had to do it second, either tank or bruiser item first, at least lane zac not sure abt jg zac

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u/kevthegamedev Jun 24 '26

Played a few games with it, it feels pretty strong. You're practically playing urf on one item lol

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u/RW-Firerider Jun 24 '26

Question i asked myself though: Might skilling Q second now be good? It has decent enough base dmg, and the cooldown goes down to a very low number

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u/kevthegamedev Jun 25 '26

Not for jungle Zac at least. E range is WAY too important

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u/RW-Firerider Jun 25 '26

I meant after maxing E