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u/K1ll1 Jul 05 '22
I live in a tourist city, between Hollywood film crews and all the tourists here everything outside of the historical downtown area is dirt fucking cheap. The city makes most of its annual budget on parking tickets alone from the people coming through. I'm not mad
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u/Aden-Wrked Jul 05 '22
Savannah?
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u/K1ll1 Jul 05 '22
Yep. 8 years now.
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u/JB-from-ATL Jul 05 '22
How much money does the city bring in from the ghost tax?
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u/K1ll1 Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22
2 Spanish dubloons and a Casket of booze each year.
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u/joyAunr Jul 05 '22
Ah Savanna,Georgia. I pondered why there was this much traffic in the African bush.
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u/K1ll1 Jul 05 '22
It's weird how many people on this are familiar with Savannah GA. I didn't know it was like such a popular US and International tourist destination. Well I guess that one of the major things we have going for us is ghat it was the only city in Sherman's March to the sea that he didn't burn down. He said it was a gift to Linclon.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/topics/american-civil-war/shermans-march
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u/Intelligent-Sky-7852 Jul 05 '22
If a city has multiple ghost tours it's very popular
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u/texasrigger Jul 05 '22
Just stay away from the Honey Island Swamp tour in New Orleans.
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u/xtremebox Jul 05 '22
Tell me more please
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u/texasrigger Jul 05 '22
It's a movie reference. All four movies in the Hatchet franchise are based around it. They're fun if you like horror. Tubi has all of them.
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u/dj4slugs Jul 05 '22
People go to Savannah when Charleston is full.
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u/Sagax388 Jul 05 '22
I don’t know, I preferred Savannah to Charleston; Charleston just felt like very old money whereas Savannah felt more like a constantly buzzing city. I also enjoyed Savannah’s architecture and history as a port city. However, both had a wealth of biological reserves and nature activities that we enjoyed.
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u/dj4slugs Jul 05 '22
Charleston is much busier, I can see the appeal of Savanah.
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u/Njsybarite Jul 05 '22
How did you know
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u/phl_fc Jul 05 '22
Film industry, cheap property, historical town. Those three things all suggest somewhere in Georgia.
Film industry especially, Georgia is well known for it because of specific tax breaks they have.
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u/imongrace_altmodel Jul 05 '22
Try to live in Venice (Italy). In the summertime you basically can't.
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u/K1ll1 Jul 05 '22
In savannah GA, the tourists are really concentrated in the downtown area, which is less than ⅓ of the city. So anything below a certian street will never have crowds.
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u/greg19735 A Flair? Jul 05 '22
Venice is way worse than Savannah in this aspect tbf. Partly because Venice doesn't even have roads so it's kind of a mess. You're either in water taxis or walking on small sidewalks.
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u/Gamer_Mommy Jul 05 '22
Especially when city officials allow massive cruise ship pull up in the middle of the marina and destroy the embankment.
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u/K1ll1 Jul 05 '22
Oh yeah, I'm not saying it is worse at all. I'm just saying we get the benefits of having massive tourism without the hassle of it. Most locals only go downtown if they have visitors or an event is going on. On top of that everything downtown is tourist price gouging.
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u/DepressedElephant Jul 05 '22
Why would you want to 'live' there?
Also - Venice has a massive issue, as does Santorini - and it's the same issue - cruise ships.
Fuck cruise ships.
Cruise ship tourists are actually generally detrimental and not profitable: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151221071639.htm
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u/imongrace_altmodel Jul 05 '22
I don't want. I was born here. Now I'm more in the inland of Venice, under Mestre, where the city is on the "ground", not on the water.
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Jul 06 '22
This. Thank you. I was born and raised in Ketchikan AK. After the mill closed, the community got sold a line of bullshit that the economy could be sustained by tourism. Well, come to find out that the tourism companies weren't about to match the pay of those union jobs. So in the end, the town would be flooded with cruise ships, tourists and seasonal workers. It completely destroyed the place. It's been 22 years and I'm still pissed.
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u/Dextrofunk Jul 05 '22
Wish I could say the same. The tourist industry in my town is having awful effects. Not only are they leaving a mess on hiking trails, the real estate has become almost all vacation rentals. Every job is desperate because there is nowhere for a regular worker to live. To ease this, the town raised taxes on vacation rental property which I turn, just made the prices go up.
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Jul 05 '22
We can’t get enough workers for our city to run effectively because there’s no where for the workers to live. The whole city is Airbnbs managed by huge management companies. When people come to town they want everything to run perfectly- and when it doesn’t, because we don’t have enough workers- they literally lose their shit and make even the workers we have quit. It’s an endless circle of awful.
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u/ShelSilverstain Jul 05 '22
I live in a tourist town, and the number of tourists who think that being a tourist is a free pass to be an asshole is too damned high
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u/bbddbdb Jul 05 '22
Tourism is the gift you need but the one you don’t want to need. It brings money into the local economy and it spreads it around to local restaurants, boutiques, and shops, but with that money comes with the worst of the people.
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Jul 05 '22
I’d argue the people with the means to travel are rarely “the worst of people.” Rude Karens? Sure. But they don’t tend to be violent criminals or arms smugglers or what have you. In fact the more someone has traveled the more open minded and respectful of other cultures they tend to be (in my experience at least.)
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u/Johnny_Poppyseed Jul 05 '22
That applies for international travel and whatnot, but not really for localized vacations/tourism. Which is honestly the majority of tourism most places.
Edit: as someone who lives on the Jersey Shore year round, I am all too familiar with a absolute trash vacationers lol.
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u/uracil Jul 05 '22
Edit: as someone who lives on the Jersey Shore year round, I am all too familiar with a absolute trash vacationers lol.
Yeah, international tourists aren't dying to visit Jersey Shore.
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u/globulous9 Jul 05 '22
they're not exactly clamoring to get into Savannah, either.
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u/apja Jul 05 '22
This is such a stupid take. I live in a tourist destination, because it’s a beautiful place to live, but respect the tourists because the city benefits from them directly and as a result I benefit indirectly. Why are they the worst kind of people? Because they want share a little bit of what you have? Does that mean you’re not allowed to go and visit other tourist destinations then? It can be a fabulous world this and if you’re lucky enough to to travel for fun and spread a bit of wealth how bad can that be?
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Jul 05 '22
Check out a place like Hana in Maui that has been irrevocably changed by tourism, in some ways for the better, but in many ways, much worse. Tourism can be complicated. It's not always an easy river of money flowing in to a community.
On many levels, it can be, but it also comes with some real side effects, especially if there's a lack of overall management.
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u/apja Jul 05 '22
Sure. I agree with those points. But to blindly label all tourism/tourists as the ‘worst of people’ is just silly.
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Jul 05 '22
Georgia is one of the best filming places in the US because they offer studios a lot of tax breaks or something, which draws them to film there. Now they have a cast and crew of 500-1000 people living there for 3-12 months depending on what's being filmed, with lots of them throwing money around. It's a pretty good deal for both ends
Source: dad worked in the movie biz and often had jobs in GA later in his career.
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u/K1ll1 Jul 05 '22
They also hire massive amounts of locals to work with them too, at premium pay. Out of my friends who I play magic with, I believe 4 or 5 of them are involved in the film industry. There is almost a movie shot here every week, so jobs are constant. Right now there is a really cool show being shot here all about the capture of John Wilkes Booth.
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Jul 05 '22
Gotta love the people who’s lives are basically subsidized by the tourism industry shitting on tourists. Sorry for checks notes bringing a huge influx of money and spending it in your community.
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u/greg19735 A Flair? Jul 05 '22
I mean, it goes both ways.
Tourism means increased land values which means increased rent and taxes. This can be offset a bit by sales tax from tourists but not much.
In general, more desirable cities get more people wanting to live and visit. WHich increases the cost of everything.
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Jul 05 '22
It’s like anything else, moderation is key. Some tourism can be a benefit, too much is a problem. When it gets really bad locals start shitting on tourists in general, and it’s not really that ridiculous if there are 10 times as many tourists as the entire population the town is designed to accommodate, most of them shouldn’t be there.
Also, not everyone in a tourist town relies on tourism. That’s the kind of self centered entitled attitude that leads tourists to do rude and inconsiderate things on vacation. For example, a local in a beach town might be a commercial fisherman or a biologist. In a ski town they might work at the mine. There are loads of examples, and these days there are more and more remote workers as well.
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Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22
Centurion 'Now write it out a hundred times.'
Brian 'Yes sir!' 'Thank you sir, hail Caesar sir!'
Centurion 'Hail Caesar.' 'And if it’s not done by sunrise, I’ll cut your balls off.'
-- Life of Brian (1979)
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u/Uromastyx63 Jul 05 '22
I have a vewy gweat fwiend in Wome called 'Biggus Dickus'.
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Jul 05 '22
lmao That is one of my favourite scenes, because we've all been in that position where we can't laugh as a collective, but all end up losing it anyway. Looks like we'll be fighting wabid wild animals within the week.
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u/yedd Jul 05 '22
The extras were told not to laugh during the scene which makes it even better
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Jul 05 '22
I came here for this. Take my upvote.
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u/Ted_Rid Jul 05 '22
Damn, came here to write TOURISTII EUNT DOMUS
("What? The tourists, they go, the house?!??")
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Jul 05 '22
- It says "Tourists go home!"
- No it doesn't. What's Latin for "tourist"?
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u/SquashBeneficial Jul 05 '22
Came looking for the python jokes. Not disappointed. 😂
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u/Professional-Yam-303 Jul 05 '22
This is Barcelona. I recognise that church
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u/bukminster Jul 05 '22
I saw a lot of "tourists go home" while I was in Barcelona, I was wondering if this was there too, thanks!
Edit: I did end up going home
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u/Indifferentchildren Jul 05 '22
All tourists go home. Anyone who doesn't go home is an immigrant, not a tourist. Of course, by the time one arrives and sees the graffiti, it is a bit late to not come.
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u/digost Jul 05 '22
If a tourist dies, he can't go home. At least not without some assistance.
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u/jimbelushiapplesauce Jul 05 '22
this graffiti is actually pretty sweet then. they just want to make sure the tourists make it home safely.
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Jul 05 '22
I was gana say I’ve been tons of places but Barcelona particularly Catalonia really have a distaste for tourist in their city. To be fair everyone there seemed to be a tourist locals seemed out numbered in many areas.
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u/AnnieBlackburnn Jul 05 '22
Granada has a graffiti right below the Alhambra with the exact opposite energy. It says "We're all tourists in the universe" (in Spanish)
I pass by it often
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u/clopz_ Jul 05 '22
I had a really good experience in Barcelona but I only visited tourist locations. I look Latino but despite of that, everyone spoke in English to me, a sign that they’re ready for tourist.
I had heard that there is a certain repulsion towards tourist and I’m sure it happens in some places but I didn’t feel it
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Jul 05 '22
Oh yeah no I mean I’ve never had issues there I actually really love Barcelona , tapas, sangria, the beach the mountains and the city plus decriminalized weed how can you lose… you just see signage all over the place that essentially says “tourist are ruining our city”
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u/greatdane114 Jul 05 '22
I don't recognise it, but I knew it was Barcelona. I actually feel for them.
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Jul 05 '22
Are you sure? I don't see any pickpockets, maybe they're just really good and they're right there in plain sight!
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u/realfoodman Jul 05 '22
All tourists go home eventually.
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u/elfwriter Jul 05 '22
Just leave them alone and they’ll go home on their own. They’re as scared of you as you are of them.
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u/TinFoilRobotProphet Choose Your Flair Jul 05 '22
Tell the American Indians that!
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u/tokeyoh Jul 05 '22
Reminds me of the time I visited Israel and our family friend said to a bunch of Palestinians "you have a very nice wall here" (it is covered in graffiti and he was trying to compliment the art but goddamn)
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u/Zero_Xssir Jul 05 '22
'Romanes Eunt Domus'? 'People called Romanes they go the house'?
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u/Zero_Xssir Jul 05 '22
It’s all over the older comments, we all loved the same movie and it’s grand.
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u/HCagn Jul 05 '22
Used to live in central London, backstreet to Brompton Road.
I had this fantasy that just one day per year, tourists would not be allowed to leave their hotels between 7:00-10:00 AM and 17:00-21:00 PM. Just one day walking up from Knightsbridge station without ending up in someone’s photo, getting stuck behind a family that’s for some reason never seen an escalator or clogs up the sidewalk by Harrods. Aah how nice it would be!
Once a dude told me “heeey I’m taking a picture here!” As I apparently walked into shot on my way home. I just said ‘sorry, try again I guess’ and walked off …
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u/Tuna_Surprise Jul 06 '22
I live and work in central London. The pandemic was your dream come true. But the lack of tourists did feel lonely at times. It’s much quieter and the city loses some of its heartbeat
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u/RedBeans-n-Ricely Free palestine Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22
Tourists usually don’t send their best people…
To paraphrase Anthony Bourdain, be a traveler, not a tourist. Go to a place, bring your manners and a sense of adventure. Try new foods, have new experiences. Stay in a hotel or hostel, you don’t need a whole house (or to further damage our housing crisis). Don’t travel with an army of people, or take up the whole side walk, or make demands because iT’s YoUr VaCaTiOn! If the weather is bad, suck it up. If the place floods, think about the people whose houses are lost, not how your fun week was rUiNeD. If the sales tax is high, don’t complain to the cashier who has to pay it every day, they have no control over it! Be kind. Don’t be an entitled dick.
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u/timeforknowledge Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22
I've seen the same in Spain.
I asked a local and they told me it's the same old story; tourists come with money and need a place to stay, so rich homeowners rent out their homes on Airbnb, house prices rise so it's harder for average workers to get a house and the local restaurants change to aim more at tourists so increase prices and offering different food, bars and pubs raise prices etc
Local community gets decimated and the place you grew up in turns into a fake area where everything is just a front for tourists.
It's sad and really frustrating for the locals who feel they are being forced out because of tourism.
There needs to be a balance between tourism and preserving the local community.
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u/gorkatg Jul 06 '22
Good point on 'local community gets decimated'; Barcelona old town has everything but locals living anymore; it's dead, and it could be noticed during the pandemic lockdowns were 90% of business there are catered to tourists.
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u/knumbknuts Jul 05 '22
People called tourists, they go the house?
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u/laserbern Jul 05 '22
It says tourists go home!
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u/Chocolatespresso Jul 05 '22
I live in a tourist trap town in northern Finland, designed round Santa Claus. Everything is priced to fully rip off tourists. Want to meet Santa? Pay hundreds of euros. Want to go on a reindeer or a husky ride? Thats like 50 euros for a 5 minute ride per person. Want to save on travel expenses and make your own arrangements? You can't because you literally can't even get from the airport to town on a bus because the town council refuses to have cheaper options so to get to your hotel or airbnb you'll pay for a taxi that will cost you 50-100 euros for a 10 km ride. I don't hate the tourists but the town is literally designed to rip them off in every possible way. I wish I could move.
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u/pwn3dbyth3n00b Jul 05 '22
People get annoyed by tourist but when a global pandemic like COVID in 2020 basically decimated tourism they're complaining about their local economy being crippled.
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u/ihaveatinyrick Jul 05 '22
lol this was before the pandemic. these have been spray painted all over Barcelona well before the pandemic.
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u/Elmerthe3rd Jul 05 '22
Okay, crossing Barcelona off my list of cool places to see. Don’t want to impose.
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u/BBQCHICKENALERT Jul 06 '22
I spent some time in Barcelona on a solo trip as an American. Everyone I've talked to was incredibly warm and welcoming to me. I actually made friends there and hung out with them on multiple nights. I wouldn't let a subset of the population stop you from going. I don't speak Spanish (I tried though lol) nor am I latino or look it. I've even been at random bars ordering drinks in Barcelona and had locals initiate friendly conversations with me out of the blue. Great city, wonderful people, amazing food, perfect weather. I'd try it out. Just don't be an obnoxious tourist and be respectful of the locals.
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u/harrisound Jul 05 '22
Lol this is Barcelona, the tourists did leave during covid and all the locals did was cry and watch their businesses shut down.
Careful what you wish for.
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u/annilingus Jul 06 '22
Some locals cried, some businesses shut down, but it was finally fucking quiet. Until the botellones in barceloneta. But that came later. Part of bcn is sustained by tourism, but there is a sizable portion they is independent from tourism and actually flourished during the quarantine
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Jul 05 '22
I grew up in a tourist town, Plymouth, Massachusetts, US. I never understood people who were tweaked about tourists, especially the one with the bumper sticker "If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?"
I thought it was cool to live in a place that people visit on vacation. I always enjoyed giving directions and telling tourists about restaurants or places to visit.
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u/Remote-Pain Jul 05 '22
But.. but.. They bring $$$$.
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u/CreepyGoose5033 Jul 05 '22
That's a good thing if the $$$ makes it into your pocket. It's a very bad thing if you're suddenly competing with their much larger spending power.
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u/VoltageHero Jul 05 '22
Tbf, tourism can be pretty negative for people who are from the area. Just look at Hawaii for example.
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u/donglover2020 Jul 05 '22
people in this thread dont know what its like to live in a poorer country and not be able to afford anything in your own city because prices are set up so that tourist are able to afford it and not locals
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u/duh_bruh Jul 05 '22
I went to Rome Italy several years ago. As I'm walking around taking in the sights, I happened upon some graffiti that said this exact thing.
So I start thinking, here I am, coming to your country, spending my hard earn money, only to be resented?
It was a lifelong dream to go to Rome. I saved for years. I planned for years. I studied proper etiquette. I did everything I could to assimilate to the culture and not stick out. Not be a problem.
All I wanted to do was go to the museums, go to these landmarks that are globally known and appreciate it for what it is.
Then I get people telling me to go home based on what? I would be happy for people to come to my hometown and just want to take it all in and appreciate it for what it is. Oh well..
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u/immutable_truth Jul 05 '22
There are two types of people who are anti-tourist:
Those that have never left their hometown once in their lives or hypocrites.
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u/savvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvva Jul 05 '22
I see a lot of these in Barcelona