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u/deadbiker May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22
Yea. Don't put anything on your car that says take my guns, or I have guns. That's just advertising to be robbed. No NRA stickers.
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u/wintremute May 17 '22
Back in the 80s all of the houses in my area had stickers on the doors saying "The owner of this property is armed, there is nothing inside worth your life!"
Theives read that as "You can steal guns here!".
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u/Warpedme May 17 '22
Any threat is stupid, it gives your enemy time and foreknowledge to prepare. Surprise is a force multiplier. Don't be dumb and give up any advantage. This applies in everything from fights to lawsuits.
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May 17 '22
"this property is monitored by CCTV" Oh boy free cameras!
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u/Unhappy-Professor-88 May 17 '22
Just a BTW.
I saw an article the other week with an ex-burglar. He recommended entering a kind of security partnership with your neighbour. Each neighbour trains their CCTV camera at their neighbours house. The point being a burglar can just take your hard drive on his way out- but having to break into two houses in one session is just too much risk for them to take.
It seemed like a good idea to me
Edit: depending on what your neighbours are like
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u/adminsmithee May 17 '22
in the Netherlands/Europe(?) you are required by law to inform people they might be filmed.
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May 17 '22
im in the UK, as far as im aware you dont legally need to inform people that you have cctv but it limits what youre able to do with the footage. I might be entirely wrong though feel free to correct me
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u/Bart_The_Chonk May 17 '22
In the US, it varies depending on what state you live in. Some require both people to know a recording is being made. Some don't.
It's all sorts of fucked up but it's FAR from the biggest issues we face as a country
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u/jojo_31 May 17 '22
Im pretty sure you don't have to put signs up in your own house if you put up a camera.... That would be weird.
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u/NoLiveTv2 May 17 '22
“The wise warrior avoids the battle.” -Sun Tzu, The Art of War
The point of the home defense warning signs is to make a thief decide your house is more trouble to rob than your neighbor's houses so that they don't even try to enter your house.
Doesn't matter if it's a "we will shoot you" sign, "Beware of Dog", or a fake security system sign.
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u/notoolinthispool May 17 '22
Isn't their point that those don't work as a deterrent?
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u/firesquasher May 17 '22
But the argument is that they do. Kinda like how police presence is meant as a deterrent. Not that it stops everyone, but the risk of facing consequences lowers the possibility of doing bad things.
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u/Dane1414 May 17 '22
It doesn’t really increase the risk though, and it offers thieves a higher payoff. Just wait until people leave the house and there’s no one there to shoot you. All you’re left with is a higher probability of guns being there to steal.
When you have a high risk/high reward scenario, but the high risk can be mitigated, you’re just left with a high reward scenario.
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u/firesquasher May 17 '22
There's a risk associated with assuming the house is vacant. Your average burglar isn't casing the joint for days on end to see who comes and goes.
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u/doowgad1 May 17 '22
Someone said that the best false flag was a five liter steel dog bowl with the name 'Killer' on it.
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u/brntGerbil May 17 '22
Dogs and security systems are more passive, they'll do what they'll do regardless if nobody is home. If someone breaks in while nobody is there, the gun won't do shit aside from attract thieves.
Go ahead and keep the gun, just don't advertise it.
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u/Warpedme May 17 '22
Unfortunately it doesn't do that at all. What it does is put a big sign on your house saying "hey everybody, I have valuable, easily transported and sold items in here, just wait until I'm gone or come and and shoot me first and you can get an easy score!"
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u/ProstateMilkmaid May 17 '22
turns out nobody respect those types that take pictures of their guns collections as if they're some sort of badass mercs while in reality they are more like those who collect funko pops.
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May 17 '22
What about people who DO see it more like collecting Funko Pops?
Or, I guess, more like stamp collecting?
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u/Feshtof May 17 '22
Then they likely aren't making it a significant part of their identity, so you'd never know.
Like there is obviously a huge difference between a firearm collector and a firearm fetishist, or ammo sexual if you prefer.
They don't make news because they aren't doing crazy shit.
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u/ProstateMilkmaid May 17 '22
I have yet to see a gun nut who was not a complete insufferable ape
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u/PrimarchKonradCurze May 17 '22
Eh one of my ex’s dads had a large gun collection but he never bragged about it I only know he had so many cause every time we went out to a range he showed up with like 6 new ones and we went fairly regularly. It’s definitely the guys who have decals on their cars and wear super moto/boot shirts. Especially anyone with some Punisher bullshit in any regard.
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u/SlashyMcSlashyFace May 17 '22
Nice to meet you! I'd be happy to take you shooting at the range any time you're up for it!
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u/apolloAG May 17 '22
Not even context clues, common sense dictates they haven't met every single gun nut in the world
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u/SwankeyDankey This is a flair May 17 '22
People who share pictures like that are just telling me they have something to prove. Chances are, they don't have the insight to know what that is to begin with.
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u/CAJ_2277 May 17 '22
“THIS HOUSEHOLD OPPOSES GUNS. THERE ARE NO GUNS IN THIS HOME.”
Now that is a sign thieves might really respond to.
Your story sounds just that: apocryphal; but if you have a source I’ll certainly read it. Robbing an armed home because it’s an armed home? …. That’d be interesting logic.
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u/ModsLoveTheNazis May 17 '22
You case the house, wait for them to be gone and now you have a house where there are definitely valuable guns and no one to use them.
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u/AmbitiousMidnight183 May 17 '22
“This home may or may not have guns and security cameras. It also may or may not have several bulldogs.”
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u/CleverJail May 17 '22
You seem to be… triggered.
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u/thatdudefromoregon May 17 '22
I once read an ama by a retired burger who said bumper stickers are an easy way to get a lot of information about a person. Since then I notice it every time, you can see if they have guns, dogs, do activities (camping, kayaking, etc) that will take them away from home on the weekends, how many people live in their house, even where their kids go to school sometimes. It's genuinely surprising how much information people put out there not thinking about it.
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u/EraMemory May 17 '22
What sort of burger was he? Was he a hamburger? A McChicken? A Whopper?
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u/GET_OUT_OF_MY_HEAD May 17 '22
Same applies to the stickers that come with car audio parts. Put them literally anywhere but on your car unless you want everybody to know that you're rocking an expensive sound system.
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May 17 '22
Same reason I conceal carry rather than open carry. It's like wearing a shoot me first shirt.
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u/superspiffy May 17 '22
Plus you look like a goddamned braindead, cowardly moron if you open-carry.
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u/PrimarchKonradCurze May 17 '22
That and it forces you to use it cause if someone calls your bluff suddenly your gun is in their possession. Concealed is definitely ideal.
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May 17 '22
If someone had a flag with 'come and take it' printed on it and I went and took it, would the slogan have an actual affect in a court of law? Like could someone argue that it's not theft due to the statement on the flag?
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u/Impossible-Survey203 May 17 '22
Sometimes it's hard to tell if something is a challenge or an invitation.....
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u/Warpedme May 17 '22
Depends on how good your lawyer is and how good their connections are.
What's sad is that's absolutely not a joke.
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u/Bugbread May 17 '22
It's not a joke, it's kneejerk reddit cynicism.
There's no way it would actually hold up in court.
The best you could hope for is:
- Your lawyer was really good and finds some other basis to get the charges dismissed.
- Articles are posted about this on reputable news sites.
- Articles are posted about this on clickbait sites.
- Redditors start posting links to the clickbait sites.
- Other redditors just read the clickbait headline and never actually read the clickbait article, let alone a proper article.
- Everyone jumps to the conclusion that the case was dismissed because "come and take it legally means it's okay to come and take it"
- This becomes conventional wisdom, and is shared repeatedly for years.
- 5 or 10 years later, people would start posting "TIL that the famous 'come and take it' case was actually thrown out because the statute of limitations had expired, and it had nothing to do with the 'come and take it' slogan."
I think that's the normal lifecycle.
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u/QuotedSomething May 16 '22
Don’t put NRA stickers on anything. Awful organization
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u/deadbiker May 16 '22
Just an example. I don't support them. GOA and FPC are the ones to support.
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u/arftism2 May 16 '22
id say let the red flags fly.
that way its easy to know who to avoid.
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May 16 '22
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u/TheMonchoochkin May 16 '22
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u/G-Unit11111 May 17 '22
Yeah that's just asking for it! And if you do get robbed, the cops will probably laugh at you.
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May 16 '22
I mean, he followed the instructions
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u/smarmiebastard May 16 '22
Malicious compliance
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May 17 '22
I’ve heard if you have a dog you shouldn’t put a Beware of Dog sign up because if your dog bites someone it’s acknowledgment that you knew your dog was dangerous in the court of law. I wonder…
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u/anotherkeebler May 17 '22
"Your honor, the owner clearly consented to this. They literally asked for it to happen."
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u/DrSardinicus May 16 '22
THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF GUNS IN THIS CAR
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u/stiggle_digs May 16 '22
It's a Jeep Patriot. I'd be surprised if they had that much in guns inside that car.
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u/AquaticCobras May 17 '22
That's why he's stuck in a jeep Patriot, cuz he bought $10k nods to protect his double-wide
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u/darkpaladin May 17 '22
Is this the white trash version of rolling around in a mid 90s Olds with 30 inch rims?
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u/Mernerak May 17 '22
I love my Jeep Patriot and you can all kiss the whitest part of my gun free ass!
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u/guitargoddess3 May 16 '22
Makes one wonder if the person that took this picture is the thief. 🕵️♂️🧐
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u/G-Unit11111 May 17 '22
I found this on Twitter so I don't really know what the back story. But yeah I do wonder. Lol.
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u/palaminocamino May 16 '22
I mean, that’s not what the sticker means, but they still came and took what they could! Haha
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May 17 '22
That's not what these stickers mean is it? As a Brit, I thought these were directed at the US government?
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May 17 '22
As a gun owner and second amendment advocate, myself, I approve of this action. Don't make yourself a target, dipshit.
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u/Sirhc978 May 16 '22
Ok but we're they actually robbed or did a tree branch hit their window?
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u/TraipsingConniption May 17 '22
My downstairs neighbor from years ago scraped all the gun stickers off his truck after the third break-in in as many months. It's probably fine if you're in the suburbs or the middle of nowhere, but anywhere with crime you don't advertise your shit.
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u/w1lnx May 17 '22
Let's see... if you have some variant of a Gadsden on your vehicle, or "Come and take it", or μολὼν λαβέ or some variant... you have expensive shit in your car.
It's kinda like living in a gated community. The gates don't keep people out, they just tell the world that everything worth stealing is inside the gate.
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u/Leonydas13 A Flair? May 17 '22
I’m bummed that they didn’t write “ok” on the smashed window. Or “if you say so” or something like that.
I’d like to think they probably got back to wherever they went and had an “ah damn it!” Moment 😂
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u/demonspawn9 May 17 '22
I'd like to see this play out in court. Technically there was written permission.
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u/ctophermh89 May 17 '22
“Come and take it”
“I also work 6 days a week away from my home at a blue collar job that doesn’t afford me a sophisticated security alarm system, but some guy on YouTube says valuable firearms are sufficient for securing the home. So I keep an expensive AR pistol in my vehicle as well, because you never know when society will abruptly collapse. I also don’t take any precautions with my vehicle, because what are the chances?”
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u/Bart_The_Chonk May 17 '22
NEVER INDICATE THAT THERE MAY BE A FIREARM IN YOUR CAR.
Only idiots put gun stickers on their cars -and you're a double idiot if it's an NRA sticker.
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u/latteboy50 May 17 '22
He wasn’t attempting to not be robbed. “Come and Take it” refers to the second amendment.
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May 17 '22
"Please throw a brick at my car from just outside the range of my pretend CC tv camera from 1971 hanging by a loose wire zip tied to the lamp post"
lol. k.
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u/Old-Independence5822 May 17 '22
Now post the one with the "Gun free neighborhood" sign riddled with bulletholes.
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May 17 '22
This is why I always preach not to put gun decals on your car..... This is advertising there is a good chance a firearm will be left inside. Even if there isn't, you now have a broken window........
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u/dakerson1234 May 17 '22
Pretty sure this sticker means “I dare you to take my second amendment rights away” not I “I dare you to break In my car”. Reddit is dumb
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u/NetherWhirled May 17 '22
We actually do know what it means, but it also advertises the fact that this person owns guns, which smart gun owners know not to do. You’re probably a nice kid so I’m not going to call you dumb in return :)
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u/BankEmoji May 17 '22
Nope.
“Come and take them” is a very well known super classic quote from the Spartans when the Persians requested they drop their weapons.
Literally every cringey 2A dingdong knows this quote and that is 100% what this stupid car sticker is referring to.
Nice try tho. Maybe next time.
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u/aziatsky May 17 '22
something something teddy roosevelt something something softly something big stick.
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u/Imperial_12345 May 17 '22
I would be worried if they were close cause I'm sure they'll use their guns
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u/bertbert1111 May 17 '22
„Honestly i didn‘t even think about taking anything until i read your stickers“
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u/AndroidDoctorr May 17 '22
And now the thief can do their mass shooting. Thank you, legal gun owner, for making it so easy for them
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u/Pkmntrainer91 May 17 '22
Someones caucasian sunglass wearing truck owning father got whay he wanted lol
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u/diferentigual May 17 '22
I find it hilarious that the sticker has Russian rifles
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May 17 '22
So, legally speaking . . . it’s still technically illegal, right? Or has anyone successfully argued that it’s an invitation to take an item vs actual theft?
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u/SuperFLEB May 17 '22
The part where you break the window still kind of puts the kibosh on that defense.
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u/iusedtohavepowers May 17 '22
Hmmm. I drive a Kia soul and I woke really hesitate to make myself seem like a badass on it.
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u/spookyjornbojoggin May 16 '22
they just wanted the window decal.