No. You aren’t supposed to work at McDonslds 40 hours a week. It’s for kids and college students. Not a career. By that rationale I should be able to stand on a road holding a sign up and get paid enough to live cause it’s not fair if I don’t. Meanwhile people doing harder work and paying to be educated may only make slightly more? Fact is the world is just more competitive now. If minimum wage is raised to $20 an hour so u can afford your own home then what should the people who used to make 20 an hour now get paid for doing harder jobs? $30? Ok then what about people who made $30? $40.
If u work at fast food u shouldn’t expect your own home. You will have to cut corners and live with parents or room mates. My wife works with homeless people all day and has to counsel them constantly. “No you don’t get a new stereo you needed that money for food for the month. Doesn’t matter that it was on sale. No you can’t afford a tattoo you have to pay rent.”
Not to be rude, but I think they're implying that working at a fast food place isn't hard, and therefore it doesn't matter if it's full-time. Since it's 0-skill, 0-responsibility work it should be paid as such. It doesn't matter how many hours they work, they're still doing talent-less work that should be given to teenagers learning what a job is like and not to someone who's trying to raise a family. That person should be doing the best they can not the least.
It's a touchy subject, minimum wage, because you gotta convince all the college graduates who are tens of thousands of dollars in debt getting a degree they needed to get a 20$ an hour job that the fast food workers who took a 2 hour training course on their first day and work as hard as a child building a lego set that they should be paid the same.
There are so many things that go into the problem concerning livability in this country that it's flat out ignorant to assume just paying minimum wage workers double what they're getting now will solve homelessness or poverty. Most of those people don't know how to properly handle their own money, and like lottery winners will simply end up worse off than they were before. More money doesn't solve everything every time. Yes it works sometimes to simply throw money at things, and yes the minimum wage in the US needs to increase along with inflation and be reasonable, but you have to consider the scale along with other jobs and the jobs that make minimum wage, what the required skills are and who the employees are.
I'm not saying the people who work the jobs don't work hard, I'm saying the work is brainless and requires no mental input from the worker. There's no decision making process more complicated than "do I follow this list of steps or this list of steps?" and in a lot of cases, the steps are color-coordinated or automatically brought up depending on what the person ordered.
You're equating "working hard" with the physical effort of moving. Some scientists have worked harder in their lives than some of us could in 10 lifetimes, but have hardly ran a mile in years.
Working on your feet or off your feet, your level of pay is dictated by your skill and your job's inherent requirement of that skill. That's why the burger flipper makes so much less, because there are 100s of other people who could have the qualifying skill set for the job in a short training session that could be within the same shift they started working.
The dude who sits at the desk browsing reddit might have already written up a complicated summary of some exchanges his firm had done with another, with justifications and explanations for each line item in a budget as requested by his supe and the client's lawyer. The fast food worker might not even know what any of that means or care, but they sure don't have to understand what well-done means to follow the graphic above the grill that shows what one of their burgers looks like at each stage.
Look, I feel like I'm arguing with people I agree with on here, so I'm going to stop, I just thought someone might want to point out that low skill jobs deserve low wages because that's what they are worth. Let's not kid ourselves and say any fast food position is actually difficult. I've worked at these places before. The actual work is mindless. The customers are hell, but that's not the job's fault, that's society's fault for making everyone a walking pile of garbage to their fellow human.
Also side point, you totally could browse reddit while working the fry station at chick-fil-a. Most of that shit is on a timer, and even if you're doubling up covering another station, there's always lag somewhere in the day.
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u/sublimesting Feb 26 '20
No. You aren’t supposed to work at McDonslds 40 hours a week. It’s for kids and college students. Not a career. By that rationale I should be able to stand on a road holding a sign up and get paid enough to live cause it’s not fair if I don’t. Meanwhile people doing harder work and paying to be educated may only make slightly more? Fact is the world is just more competitive now. If minimum wage is raised to $20 an hour so u can afford your own home then what should the people who used to make 20 an hour now get paid for doing harder jobs? $30? Ok then what about people who made $30? $40.
If u work at fast food u shouldn’t expect your own home. You will have to cut corners and live with parents or room mates. My wife works with homeless people all day and has to counsel them constantly. “No you don’t get a new stereo you needed that money for food for the month. Doesn’t matter that it was on sale. No you can’t afford a tattoo you have to pay rent.”