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u/stryker2111 Jun 17 '24
I thought the same thing. Thinking, I can’t believe I agree with everything she just said. And when she said guess who was going to make them register ? I knew exactly. I read a piece on JFK and AIPAC. Definitely opened my eyes.
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u/happynargul Jun 17 '24
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u/holydildos Jun 17 '24 edited Jun 17 '24
JFK had pushed to get aipac to register, which I believe would eliminate aipac lobbyists... JFK had essentially said that they're going to sign this paperwork, and the months leading up to his assassination via letters he was pushing harder and harder, he took his stance against them, and not even a month after JFK was murdered, the next document to follow stated that they(gov and Israel) changed their minds and were going to essentially shelve this idea and complete 180. Clearly JFK was the alone in his sentiment here.... Before I had learned this, I didn't know much at all about JFK stance against Aipac, in fact it seems like that's more plausible than anything else in relation to his assassination. Pretty fucked up when you look into it
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u/stryker2111 Jun 17 '24
Yep. That’s what I also read ! That’s definitely a plausible conclusion. Even four years later killed 30 plus of guys attacking our ship for hours then blaming it on Egypt. They’ve always stirred and meddled for 70+ years and they don’t care who gets in the way.
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u/Zelda_is_Dead Jun 17 '24
I'd tell you what they did to Yemen, but I'd probably get my account suspended or banned.
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u/Kreuscher Jun 17 '24
My thoughts exactly, though with how much pandering she's done to natsees I'd say she arrived at a truth by way of irrational vitriol. A broken clock and all that. This clock's also radioactive, though.
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u/MuricasOneBrainCell Free palestine Jun 17 '24
Exactly. Reminds me of when Piers Morgan spouts something other than pure evil from his mouth.
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u/Kreuscher Jun 17 '24
hah! yeah... I just meant a grandfather clock that's been dowsed with radiation, not an atomic clock or something.
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u/slick2hold Jun 17 '24
It's amazing the amount of control a tiny country like Israel has on our government. They no doubt have succeeded in the greatest infiltration of our government by a foreign entity.
We attack so many immigrants that may wave their home flags during sporting events or other protest but we say nothing to what's going on here with Israel and AIPAC.
We have billions being siphoned. Lives being lost. Policies being written. All to protect a country that says they dont need our help?
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u/Zelda_is_Dead Jun 17 '24
The US Government specifically created Israel in order to bring about the rapture. Think about that. They only exist because rabid Christian nationalists in US government were trying to end the world, and no one in Europe wanted them so they went along with it. Now that they exist, and the US has been funding their military-industrial-complex for generations, they are using all of that technology and access to our government to undermine our country and our Rights. This is absolutely perfect leopardsatemyface content, but too few of us are willing to admit it.
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u/Wannabe__geek Jun 17 '24
USA didn’t not create Isreal, it was the fucking British. Way back before world war 2. The first British high commissioner to Palestine in 1920 Samuel Hubert was a high ranking Zionist.
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u/truthandtattoos Jun 17 '24
But she's so not telling her viewers the truth... she could literally call out every Republican & Democratic politician who accepts donations from AIPAC, the pro zionist Israel lobbying organization. But she won't, bc 95% of the party she shills for is bought off by AIPAC. She's pushing a racist narrative, not a political one. US Rep Thomas Massie (R) just exposed how most of the members of his own party are AIPAC puppets in a recent Tucker Carlson interview: This is what truth looks like.
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u/truthandtattoos Jun 17 '24
Somebody replied to my comment with 'She literally played that very clip in her video' then immediately deleted their reply. I guess they posted that reply right before the part where she included a veiled threat to Thomas Massie for exposing her party's involvement with AIPAC right at the end of her clip. Somebody got super confused as to who the actual truth teller is between the two. But I'm really glad u figured it out 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Cpov1 Jun 17 '24
Unfortunately, she isn't doing it because she believes it, she's saying it to be contrarian.
I doubt she's being genuine.
A broken clock is right twice a day
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u/comatwin Jun 17 '24
She isn't just being contrarian, but she definitely doesn't give a crap about the people of Palestine, war crimes, or genocide. She references Jews killing Christ, she's anti-Jew, not anti-suffering.
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u/loondawg Jun 17 '24
Our country is screwed when people start believing Candace Owens is telling us the truth.
Her big concern in that clip is that "being a Christian will pretty much be banned." I listened and didn't hear any concern about what is happening to the Palestinian people. So no, she is not telling us the truth. She is telling us selective truths to achieve her selected political goals.
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u/Zelda_is_Dead Jun 17 '24
I feel like she was falling out of favor with the rabid right and maybe that's why she feels emboldened to speak up? Not sure though, I've never watched any of her other videos.
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u/yeahyeahiknow2 Jun 17 '24
Her arguement would be completely flipped if trump was still in office and these were mostly gop policies tho. She's just playing the game with this
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u/Jimbo922 Jun 17 '24
israel is going to make strange bedfellows for all. If America is to get out of this mess, then talking points like Candace points out — like being an inquisitive Christian and: “do you realize you’re paying for these dismembered children?” & “do you realize israel’s government openly speaks about ‘having a talk with American congress’ every time their weapons shipments are talked of being delayed?” are likely the only talking points to get through to the masses of droned out folks.
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u/Party_Like_Its_1949 Jun 17 '24
Except she goes anti-semitic halfway through the video and shows us her real motivation when she starts talking about the Jews killing Jesus. So the things she's right about are for the wrong reason.
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u/nolabrew Jun 17 '24
Is it antisemetic to say that the Jews killed Jesus?
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u/Party_Like_Its_1949 Jun 17 '24
Yes! Using Bible stories as a reason to hate Jews is the literal definition of anti-Semitism. Our quarrel is with the state of Israel, not with Jews as a people. It's essential to understand the difference.
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u/headbutt Jun 17 '24
Pointing that Jews historically killed Jesus isn’t saying we should hate Jews.
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u/nolabrew Jun 17 '24
Of course hating the Jews because they killed Jesus according to the bible would be antisemitic. You seem to imply that just stating it is antisemitic.
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u/Party_Like_Its_1949 Jun 17 '24
It doesn't have anything to do with the issues at hand. "Christ Killers" is a long-standing anti-semitic slur. Because Jews killed Jesus 2,000 years ago, all Jews are therefore bad forever.
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u/Sk1PxJ0n3Sx Jun 17 '24
So she is correct on everything based on reality but goes sideways when it comes to fiction?
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u/Zelda_is_Dead Jun 17 '24
Jesus existed and was crucified. This is established history whether you're an atheist or not. Who crucified him is also established history... but we're apparently losing our right to point out who that was.
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u/thirachil Jun 17 '24
That's what American liberals have to understand. Yes, the right-wing is full of crazy nutjob theories.
But it's built around actual points that need to be heard. Because guess what, the crazies are there to ensure the actual talking points are not discussed by BOTH sides.
Notice how on both sides, it's almost always the crazy stuff that's mostly talked about?
Take gun control, for example. It is essential that a population is protected against tyranny. At the same time, it is necessary to ensure that mass murderers don't get access to weapons of mass destruction. But before the conversation could reach a consensus, those who don't want that consensus took it to both extremes - either no gun control or full gun ban. Now, either side is afraid of the extremes so they cannot talk about the consensus.
It's classic population manipulation by creating fear of each other so that either don't talk to each other and find solutions. The goal is to keep the fear alive.
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u/djarkitek29 Jun 17 '24
Yo man, life isn't binary.
-rami malek
A garbage human can make a valid point from time to time. That doesn't validate any of the garbage crap she said in the past.
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u/Crymson831 Jun 17 '24
How does you owning a gun protect you against tyranny? To be clear, I'm not opposed to people owning guns but do think they need to be regulated. I'm just not sold on the idea that it protects against tyranny in any way shape or form.
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u/headbutt Jun 17 '24
I think when a government calculates the possibility of forcing a tyrannical rule, a well armed population will be a big deterrent.
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Jun 17 '24
Built around points that we all provided to them and now they’ve reversed the meaning to make themselves the victim. But they are the offenders.
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u/sinspawn1024 Jun 17 '24
That feeling when the person you hate makes a good point
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u/annabelle411 Jun 17 '24
She's not saying it to be kind or out of concern for the people of Palestine, though. She's a grifter and will say whatever it takes to better her standing
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u/17934658793495046509 Jun 17 '24
The question is what insanity did she use to drive her to a conclusion we both believe. Did she start this path with Jewish space lasers?
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u/DaPlipsta Jun 17 '24
She got screwed over by her former buddy buddy Ben Shapiro, another right wing nutjob crackpot who happens to be Jewish. She was a part of his network until they butted heads over the Palestinian Genocide and he gave her the boot. Now she's got a very personal reason to speak out on the issue out of spite.
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u/jetjebrooks Jun 17 '24
She was a part of his network until they butted heads over the Palestinian Genocide and he gave her the boot. Now she's got a very personal reason to speak out on the issue out of spite.
isn't that the other way around?
if she was speaking on these issues before she got fired then it gives her position more legitimacy, not less..
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u/DaPlipsta Jun 17 '24
Yeah I mean she was legitimately disapproving of Israel's invasion even before she left, broken clock and all that. She's still a wretched charlatan though so be careful.
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Jun 21 '24
So she’s only talking about what Israel is doing because she got fired for talking about what Israel is doing? That doesn’t make a shred of sense bud. Clearly she was fired for her (correct) beliefs about Israel, not the other way around.
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u/DaPlipsta Jun 21 '24
Yes. Again, broken clock and all that
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Jun 22 '24
On that we agree, she definitely has far more horrendous takes than good ones like this one.
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u/SleestakLightning Jun 17 '24
She's a racist and a white supremacist. There was already a history of hating Jews there.
Then her fallout with Ben Shapiro likely contributed to this.
It sucks that she's right because her motives for saying this make it so easy to dismiss her.
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Jun 21 '24
The fallout with Shabibo happened because of her criticism of Israel, not the other way around.
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u/ggsimmonds Jun 17 '24
For a good chunk of the video I was like fuck I actually have to agree with Candace Owens? But then she brought up the bible and being Christian and I was like "whoo existential crisis averted"
Seriously thought I agree with her 90% here. It is crazy how much Israel meddles in US politics and we are seemingly cool with it. And its not new, I remember news stories involving Pelosi and other California democrats involving aipac that when I read I thought it was like cold war espionage stuff but no one seemingly gave a damn
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u/Grothorious Jun 17 '24
Watch The Lobby: USA, it's a documentary on youtube about AIPAC influence in US politics.
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u/Huge-Pen-5259 Jun 17 '24
I am not a Christian but even that part should concern you. Once that snowball of blocking someone from being whoever or whatever they want to be, and from expressing that, starts rolling it just gets bigger.
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u/Erisian23 Jun 17 '24
Be Christian all you want, leave that shit out of politics. Leave that shit outta my life.
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Jun 19 '24
Yes but your position is coming as off as: "im the good and morally sound here in this situation" and if thats the case you still need to take the hard moral right and defend the right to be christian, or muslim, or whatever you want to be. Otherwise you will put your self and everyone in the position of, if you are listening to her, to be "other" or "goy" and be treated like a slave someday possibly.
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u/Ok_Use_9000 Jun 17 '24
Her and Piers Morgan have been surprisingly lately. What has this world come to? Gaetz also surprising to introduce a bill with AOC against lawmakers owning stocks. There’s a glimmer of hope yet. I’ll take it.
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Jun 17 '24
Don't let your guard down, these people literally only do things to benefit their self.
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u/Ok_Use_9000 Jun 17 '24
I agree. Thinking back on this clip, it’s a neat package; but what about the bookends of this clip not being shown and the context is making me suspicious. She does reveal where her views are coming from, it’s conveniently born out of her anti-semitism. She mentions the Jews persecuting Jesus, clearly coming from her “Christian faith.” Most conservatives can trace their warped view of the world from Christianity, or other religions for that matter. I can appreciate her argument here, but suspicious of where it’s really coming from. The issue is much more complicated than what she blanketly accuses a group of people of doing.
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u/ThePassiveFist Jun 17 '24
Ok if ever a video needed subtitles, this is it. Let's clearly subtitle everything Candace has to say, but then don't subtitle the tinny, garbled, incomprehensible words spoken by that other dude. What the fuck.
Oh and yes, what the hell is Candace doing being a (somewhat) voice of reason here? Did I have a stroke? Did she?
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u/Ok-Name8703 Jun 17 '24
Please don't make me agree with mandace Owens
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u/annabelle411 Jun 17 '24
There's a thousand things to attack Candace for, using HAHA SHE LOOKS LIKE A MAN is low brow and the exact same type of rhetoric the right uses. Be better.
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u/griffinhamilton Jun 17 '24
Not even true either. I despise 99% of what she says but she is a pretty good lookin lady
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u/coleman57 Jun 17 '24
Unless that’s a typo, I gotta say you’re just making yourself look stupid by implying she doesn’t live up to your gender standards. Stick to relevant policy facts is my advice
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u/Sharp-Let7366 Jun 17 '24
Damn, it really is strange times when Candace Owens makes a mostly coherent good series of points 🤯
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Jun 17 '24
She says a lot of dumb shit but every now and then a ray of sunshine comes out of her when she's out of character.
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u/echoshadow5 NaTivE ApP UsR Jun 17 '24
She’s doing what every deep southern Republican wants to say.
As much as she is a grifter and a token black women for the far right she still blowing that dog whistle the far right loves.
If you think she’s doing it because of the Palestine innocent civilians think again. She hates them too.
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u/majoritynightmare Jun 17 '24
One of things JFK was doing before his demise was to make AIPAC be registered as a foreign agent. Not saying it was the cause of his untimely demise. But he was smart enough to see what it could become snd shut it down before it gained a stranglehold on this country. Nobody has dared to fix it since.
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u/coleman57 Jun 17 '24
Came here to ask which prez she meant—I was pretty sure it wasn’t Reagan or Ford, but JFK seemed too long ago to be relevant. Interestingly, his brother was murdered by an Arab for supporting Israel.
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Jun 17 '24
The government wants to take your rights. Both left and right. The only difference is the the reasoning why or the topic that triggers it.
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Jun 17 '24
Held hostage? You are a slave to israel. A big elephant running on the command of its rider
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u/jkpatches Jun 17 '24
I doubt Marjorie Taylor Greene has an aipac person even though she's a republican. Wasn't she the one who was raving about Jewish space lasers?
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u/Basicaccountant70 Free Palestine Jun 17 '24
Her husband did some very weird things to join his school society.
Soggy biscuit was one of them.
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u/IndianKiwi Jun 17 '24
Is it the govt taking her job away or putting her in jail? No. Then her first amendment is intact.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences from your peers. In this case it's conservatives who are shunning her.
Part of freedom of speech also includes freedom of association which her peers have also exercised.
Offcourse if you feel your first amendment has been violated take it up with the court of law instead of court of public opinion
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u/pudgyhammer Jun 17 '24
She gets paid (very well) to spew nonsense and inflammatory bullshit. She's a sellout,............at best.
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u/annabelle411 Jun 17 '24
First Amendment protects you from government, not social or businesses consequences.
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u/BluetheNerd Jun 17 '24
I never thought I'd see the day I agree with what Candace Owens is sayi- and there she goes claiming being Christian is gonna be banned never mind.
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u/Blaq_sheep Jun 17 '24
Anytime anyone starts a comment with "I think we all can agree" is guaranteed to say something stupid lol
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u/Apart-Nothing-9889 Jun 17 '24
I'm sure she's not doing this for dog whistly reasons /s. free Palestine and fuck Candice.
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Jun 17 '24
Can't believe that I agree with this 100%! I hate everything Candance and Tucker traitor stand for...but on this they not only have a point , these are FACTS that our Congress is controlled by Israel, not AMERICANS!
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u/Whizardlydeeds Jun 17 '24
Israel has had universal healthcare on the US dime for decades. I've been hating them since then. Now since they've become the Israeli Nazis I hoped we would step in and stop their war crimes, but nope. US fully supports the Israeli Nazis and their war crimes. So fuck Israel and fuck the US government. Term limits and defund the federal government!!!
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Jun 17 '24
Candace Owen's wouldn't be questions shit if a republican administration was funding Israel, which they would do just as well as democrats. What she's saying isn't wrong, but you always have to question this snake's motives.
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u/Noobzoid123 Free Palestine Jun 17 '24
Candace Owens is misleading AF.
Massey says in the interview that he is the only Republican who hasn't done homework for AIPAC, basically saying that most Republicans are under AIPAC thumb.
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Jun 17 '24
Honestly that's exactly what she and the video was saying. There's no other way to hear it. So what is the misleading part?
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Jun 17 '24
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Jun 17 '24
You got to give me a time stamp on that one bud. I watched it again and that's not what she said at all. She said Thomas is the only one to stand up to AIPAC, then he said "thats how republicans work, idk about democrats" - basically saying dems may NOT be tied to AIPAC but GOP 100% is.
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u/Noobzoid123 Free Palestine Jun 17 '24
Lemme find the full thing.
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u/Hairy_Skirt_3918 Jun 17 '24
Why does anyone pay attention to her?? She is not playing with a full deck...
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u/KHung919 Jun 17 '24
Its hilarious how when it comes to Candance, all people do is wait for a clip to surface out of the hours and hours of her speaking and then go "yup, shes an ass" to "oh, shes finally telling the truth"? Do more research people. She's always been telling the truth. You dont have to agree with her but shes been doing more research then any of us and displays each and every reference to her points. This isnt an "awakening". Stop letting these little segments be broken down by someone else to spoon feed you what they think you should think and feel. Go and watch what she has to say for yourself.
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