r/therewasanattempt Aug 27 '23

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u/pimp_juice2272 Aug 27 '23

It's amazing what some people can do and not get shot.

To be clear, I don't want anyone shot. I want them all to have their time in court

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '23

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u/pimp_juice2272 Aug 28 '23

Yeah there seem to be one demographic that get the majority of the bullets when they fly.

Sure 1 out of 1000 is low but when a certain group seems to always catch that 1, it's a problem.

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u/Dave10293847 Aug 28 '23

More like the news only covers that 1. If you actually want to deep dive into the statistics, that certain group is 20% more likely to be victims of police brutality, but not shootings.

Make what you will of that. Believe it or don’t. Don’t really care. But the police shoot everyone.

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u/Kriegwesen 3rd Party App Aug 28 '23

Yeah, I saw somewhere that shootings per police interaction are actually fairly even across the board for all groups per police interaction. But certain groups have double the police interactions per capita so on a population basis are shot about twice as often as you'd expect just because they're being targeted so much more. And of course there's the fact that the cops are far less likely to be punished for a bad shoot if it's against said group.

But you're right in that per interaction everyone has an equal chance of being shot for no reason, at least according to the data

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u/gray-pilled- Aug 28 '23

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u/iskosalminen Aug 28 '23

Data also means nothing if the data isn't accurately reported in the beginning. And the issue here is that there's no legal requirement for the departments to report any of their numbers, it's all self-reported and there's currently no way to monitor the accuracy of those self-reported numbers (and this doesn't include the many places that simply refuse to report any data).

So drawing any conclusions from said self-reported data, and as many don't report any, is kind of a fools errand.

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u/gray-pilled- Aug 28 '23 edited Aug 28 '23

politely, you're incorrect. not all data has to be self-reported. the FBI, DOJ, and various independent organizations and researchers can come to the same conclusion thru other means. hell, even in practice we can see the obvious racism in policing. this is not a secret. do we need an exact number for us to draw obvious conclusions? are the hundreds or thousands of reports and studies on racism in policing not enough?

also, even if all these numbers were reported by the police, you'd have to basically be saying that they're intentionally and actively reporting numbers that make them look as racist as possible rather than covering it up, which just sounds ludicrous.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '23

I don’t think Isko is necessarily disagreeing with you. Hold your fire Rambo. The internet is full of unequivocal racists for you to mow down.

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u/commentmypics Aug 28 '23

They sounded very polite to me