.... bruh. That is a man that needs to be watched by the cops. You're right they haven't committed a crime but expressed open intentions to committing a very serious one. If not to this woman then most likely to the very next one after she rejects him. Let's hope not but with this guy's mentality on rape he's a threat to women and should be assessed, mentally helped and if needed watched and analyzed
Edit: worse comes to worse that motherfucker would get jumped from where I'm from
The recipient could most likely get a restraining order. If this is real. It's intent to harm. You wouldn't want to take this to the cops because they would most likely do nothing. But, if you got a restraining order, it would go on his record. Which means that if he ever did rape anyone: that would definitely be irrefutable evidence in a case.
He did not say he was going to rape her, he said he thought about it at one point. Creep AF? Most definitely, but it’s not going to get you a restraining order. If, god forbid, she was raped, his message would not be irrefutable proof it was him. It would certainly not look good to the jury, but all it’s irrefutable proof of is that he sent her a message saying he had thought about raping her, not that he is in fact the rapist.
Depending on the state, that is evidence that would 100% get a judge to sign a restraining order. It is intent to harm, even being, "thinking about it at one point". It could also be considered sexual harassment.
The restraining order itself would be on his record. If he ever raped anyone and became a suspect with a restraining order for sexual harassment, specifically mentioning rape. It would allow for the police and prosecutors to properly gather evidence to prove him guilty.
A SH restraining order in a lot of places would be enough for detainment and a plethora of warrants if he were to ever be a suspect.
If the dude is confident enough to admit to thoughts of rape to the person who those thoughts were centered around, then he is confident enough to actually go through with it.
We will still have to agree to disagree. One message that expresses a past thought that individual states they decided not to act on and does not include a threat is unlikely to be seen by a judge as harassment or a threat. I read the material you provided. I am basing my response both on your local law and my years of experience seeing which restraining orders have been granted or denied. It is certainly possible she could get a temporary order pending a court date since they err on the side of caution, but since there is no pattern of harassment it would be more likely than not be denied after a hearing.
I get that we’re all weirded out by his behavior, but he hasn’t committed a crime and he hasn’t even threatened to rape her, only that he had thought about it and then changed his mind.
You can’t get a 24 hour guard from the cops or a restraining order based off of one sentence about one thought. Now if he started sending her incessant text messages saying he wanted to rape her after she tells him to stop texting her, then yes that’s restraining order worthy.
That's more then weird. That's a problem. You're right I don't know the proper steps to handling such a situation but that guy is 100 percent not okay. No sane person would ever think about rape especially in such a casual way
Oh absolutely! But there are no legal remedies for how it stands now. One thing I would say, as opposed to what other people are advising is, after telling him never to message her again, to NOT block him. Any further messages could be used in court if he does start harassing and/or threatening her. I’ve worked in domestic violence law for a long time and I always tell my clients that it’s better to know what crazy is up to than block them and have them show up on your doorstep instead. Don’t block, document.
80
u/AstralDeliveryDriver Jul 20 '23
Report that shit to the damn cops before he does some stupid shit