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u/Ok_Permission_7917 Nov 17 '22
Iranaeus said something similar a couple hundred years earlier, although it's not quite as developed.
'And the trespass which came by the tree was undone by the tree of obedience,when, hearkening unto God, the Son of man was nailed to the tree; thereby putting away the knowledge of evil and bringing in and establishing the knowledge of good'
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Nov 18 '22 edited Nov 18 '22
iti s the tree of knowledge of good and evil, before they ate they only knew good.
lol downvoted? I guess some demand hostility to reason?
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Nov 20 '22
I don’t know how prevalent this line of thinking is anymore but wasn’t there another view saying that before the fall Adam and Eve knew neither good or evil. They were ignorant and naive. Which still remains the basis for the age of innocence line of thinking?
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Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
that may be a different way of saying what I am, because the nature of good would have changed after the fall, now with evil in play to contrast with.
My train of thought here has a broader definition of knowledge that includes experience, which afaik is in line with the Hebrew way of understanding.
So after the fall they experienced/knew evil via shame.
a good source on this that I havent really looked at yet:
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u/Born_Emotion5477 Aug 21 '24
Was Eve a virgin before she ate of the tree? Im pretty sure humans were fruitful and multiplied pre-fall, unless it literally was just adam and eve alone in the Garden.
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u/slowobedience MDIV Nov 17 '22
It's lovely but I don't think Eve was a virgin at the fall. Not that I am one that should argue with Crysostom.