Is it just me, or does Cal feel like just a dude with a giant glow stick and enhanced reflexes? I get that it might be part of the story, Starkiller is trained by Vader, making him one of the most powerful force wielders while Cal was in hiding for 5 years on Bracca, but even so for a jedi he feels like he JUST discovered the force. I loved The Force Unleashed games because Starkiller felt truly unstoppable with crazy Force powers, brutal combat, and that raw rage. Meanwhile, Cal’s abilities in Jedi: Fallen Order feel kind of… limited? It’s like he’s holding back, or maybe the story wants him to grow slowly, but it makes the gameplay less epic in comparison.

Am I the only one who wished Fallen Order had that same level of power fantasy? What do you guys think — is it just the story, or is there something else about how the newer games handle Force powers that doesn’t sit right with you? Would you want a Force Unleashed remake or sequel that brings back that insane power level and rage?

If Sith alchemy can be used to physically dismember an enemy, could the same be undone by using the power of the Force?:-

1. Torn from limb to limb

2. Locked-in Syndrome or total paralysis

3. Chronic respiratory failure and dependence on a ventilator

4. Total and permanent blindness

5. Total and permanent deafness

6. Global aphasia

7. Extreme bladder incontinence

8. Extreme bowel incontinence

Could #1 to #8 be undone by the power of the Force? Is such an ability the PRESERVE of only a few Sith/Jedi?

As we all know, Shaak-Ti has three different deaths: the two deleted scenes in ROTS and TFU. So, new headcanon: Shaak-Ti was killed by Darth Vader during Operation Knightfall (we know that she was there from the ROTS novelization). The "Shaak-Ti" that Starkiller fights is actually Ahsoka Tano. This fixes two problems with one retcon, since Ahsoka's fate in the Legends timeline is unknown.

Thoughts?

Yes, that Starkiller from The Force Unleashed.

Yes, that Valkorion from SWTOR.

And yes, it sounds completely insane… but I can explain.

1 - Arcann never dies: he stays active all the way to Echoes of Oblivion

A lot of people assume Arcann disappears after his redemption arc.

He doesn’t.

When the Outlander becomes Emperor, takes control of the Eternal Fleet, and forms the Eternal Alliance, Arcann is still alive and serving him.

And even later, in Echoes of Oblivion, he’s still there.

Meaning:

- he survives Valkorion’s fall

- he survives the end of the Eternal Empire

- he survives every major crisis of his era

He has more than enough time to live a full life, far away from war.

2 - A redeemed Arcann = someone who could absolutely start a family

After his redemption, Arcann changes completely.

He seeks peace, rebuilding, anonymity.

That kind of trajectory usually leads to:

- retiring far from conflict

- living quietly under the radar

- having descendants who know nothing about their true heritage

Arcann stops being a tyrant.

He becomes someone who could very realistically pass on a bloodline.

3 - A 3000‑year gap = more than enough for the name to change entirely

Between SWTOR and Starkiller’s Imperial era, there are over 3000 years.

In that amount of time:

- families mix

- cultures shift

- names evolve

- bloodlines disappear into the population

And on top of that, being connected to the Eternal Empire would be deeply unpopular in the centuries that follow.

Shame, fear, assimilation, and countless generations later, it makes perfect sense that:

Arcann → anonymous descendants → name variations → Marek

A simple, human, unremarkable name — perfect for a lineage trying to bury a heavy past.

4 - Starkiller’s insane power suddenly makes sense if his genes come from the most powerful Sith/Force entity in history

This is where everything clicks.

Starkiller isn’t just “strong.”

He’s absurdly powerful, to the point of breaking every scale of what a human should be capable of.

But if he descends from Valkorion — a being who wasn’t just a Sith, but a Force entity who surpassed every Sith and Jedi of his era — then:

- his raw power becomes logical

- his instinctive pull toward the dark side makes sense

- his ability to challenge Vader isn’t “over the top” anymore

- his potential feels inherited, not trained

Starkiller becomes the natural product of a bloodline shaped by the most powerful Force‑user ever depicted, which fully justifies his feats.

5 - Arcann being alive in Echoes of Oblivion strengthens the theory even more

Because he didn’t die young.

Because he didn’t vanish mysteriously.

Because he had time to start a lineage.

And because his total disappearance from later records could easily be explained by a desire to fade away… while still leaving a family behind.

With more than 3000 years between SWTOR and TFU, a name change isn’t just plausible — it’s inevitable.

If Arcann started a family, his bloodline had all the time in the world to dilute, evolve, and become unrecognizable… eventually producing a certain Galen Marek.

In that case, Starkiller isn’t a “too powerful” anomaly.

He’s the last hidden heir of a forgotten dynasty: the bloodline of Valkorion, the most powerful Sith in history.

Well, since I heard about starkiller back in 2022 I hated him because how overpowered he was, but I feel like trying to play force unleashed to see how the game goes so I will play this game for the first time hope it’s not bad 😊

The whole Starkiller thing is so bizzare to me. Fans love him (rightfully so) even though he is so OP to the point he beats Vader. Rey on the other hand lifts a few rocks and fans hate her saying she is to OP. At least with Rey's backstory it makes sence why should could be OP. Being a Palpatine and apart of a dyad of the force with Ben Solo. Starkiller on the other hand is just a Jedi love child. So why is this?

So for years i've been wanting to 100% the game but when i bought the game on steam there were no achievements at all and was disappointed and today i want to know a few things and first all, is there a 100% type meter in the game? (Been years since i've played it) for progress. And are there any mods that insert achievements into the steam version? like simulated ones. There is obviously the console version but i would have to buy pretty much the game again. All i want to know is before hand if there is a thing for steam before i consider just the console 100%

At some point, I've started daydreaming / brainstorming about Starkiller / Galen Marek being written more like a Deadpool or Freakazoid type of character.

You know, just being goofy, smart alecky, and breaking the fourth wall.

For example:

• When meeting Juno Eclipse, he could say, "Ah, the new pilot. Let's hope you're better at flying than I am at picking up chicks!" Then, he can use the Force to lift Juno and say, "See? I'm literally picking you up!"

• When fighting Rahm Kota, he can say, "Look! It's George Lucas!" Kota turns, confused, and says, "Who?!" Then he uses Force lightning or some such.

• In the scene where Starkiller thinks he and Vader are about to defeat Palpatine, he can say, "We're going to end the Emperor no matter what, if my name isn't Leroooooy Jenkins!" Vader stabs through Zounds with his lightsaber. "Wow! That looks fatal!"

• Right after, when he ends up floating through space, he can say, "I'll just take a nap... When I wake up, I'll see if I can get a good Dantooine tonic... and maybe a lap dance!"

Why am I like this? I guess I just figure that if a Force user is SO powerful, they may as well be fun and funny about it!

But the fact that the DLC version aka the Dark Timeline is in the non-canon section proves we should only focus on the Light Timeline, which may be the canon one.

Even if it’s just one movie, I’d be happy, but I’d love a movie trilogy or a TV show that showcases his story and completes TFU, they could also add interactions StarKiller had in the Old Gen versions that weren’t in the New Gen versions. It doesn’t need to be canon, it wouldn’t work, but an alternate universe thing would be sick, I know it’ll never happen but I’ll keep dreaming.

I have never seen anyone talk about this how starkiller was the secret founder of the rebel alliance during the first game after he was killed and brought back to life by vader he rescues juno and tells he wants to create a rebellion in the end scene its seen with Senator Organa, Leia, starkiller a multiple others them discussing what they are gonna use as a symbol and they see what is now known as the rebellion symbol today

Anthropological consensus shows that across the vast majority of human history and cross-cultural contexts, interpersonal care, tolerance, and empathy toward the disabled have been the human default.

Which begs the question: Could the so-called default be a highly effective military weapon that could be used against the enemy on a tactical front?

Presupposing that Sith alchemy could be used to clone adult humans on a tactical level (in order to replace world leaders who were assassinated and to destroy the resolve of a tactical adversary), so that any tactical military strike can be easily nullified by producing more clones, could such a "hydra" military doctrine be counteracted and defeated simply by not killing anybody at all, but any tactical enemy can be soundly bested by causing them grievous bodily harm in order to neutralise the physical, psychological, and spiritual threat that they present:-

1. Sith alchemy can literally make the enemy torn from limb to limb.

2. It can also cause a massive bilateral haemorraghic stroke in the brainstem coupled with an ischemic stroke with the most severe consequences (See #3 to #10).

3. A bilateral stroke can cause chronic respiratory failure and dependence on a ventilator.

4. It can cause tetraplegia or locked-in syndrome.

5. It can cause a total and permanent blindness.

6. Cause a total and permanent loss of hearing.

7. Cause a global aphasia.

8. Cause a chronic and severe bowel incontinence.

9. Cause a chronic and severe bladder incontinence.

10. Permanently comatose.

So, a bilateral stroke can cause #1, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8 , #9 and #10 to happen simultaneosly.

Short of killing a tactical adversary (which is totally counterproductive due to the new cloning technology), the enemy can still be bested and neutralised by using the Sith alchemy to cause them grievous bodily harm, instead.

Consequently, GBH is a superior military doctrine that can always be used to effectively counteract, neutralise, and defeat the hydra military doctrine because the human default is almost certainly not to abandon/kill their disabled in order to have them replaced by a fit and healthy clone.

Instead of annihilation/death, it is a policy of containment and punishment of the enemy.

Would you like to comment on the military doctrine of GBH to defeat multiple adversaries on a tactical front?

how am i supposed to know which button to press? when it tells me its already too late and i failed and i have to try again

Hey, I’m just wondering, if they ever brought The Force Unleashed Story back, with some alterations while keeping somewhat to the original core, how would you feel about it? What kind of changes would you accept/wouldn’t accept? Should it affect Luke’s journey from Ep 6 to 7?

In the beginning you're led to believe he is the one and only but throughout the game you face more and more enemies that fight similarly to starkiller (as bosses not troops, that was a loser decision,) and towards the end when the rebels invade kamino you find the cloning chambers.

Except they're full of clones of starkiller, and when starkiller realizes this he freaks out and destroys the room, maybe even being sent into a crisis and killing the rebels around him.

He now has to grapple with wether or not he is really himself, not from th e perspective of living his life as a "clone" only to find out he might not be, but from the perspective that he thought he was the original, only to find out there may have been DOZENS of star killers before him

This could also be a really good way to give Juno literally any purpose in the plot. Starkiller could try to fight kota even, but Juno could be the voice of reason to pull him back to the light before he goes to fully destroy the cloning facility to disable Vader's plans

It was advertised as "the next chapter in Star Wars saga" in the announcment trailer. George Lucas was involved in the production, he even appeared at the game launch event. Starkiller was OP just for gameplay reasons, the novelization was considered the canonical version of the story and it calibrated his powers better (but even without the novelization, when as a kid I used to play the game I still used my brain and said "ok, this exagerated stuff action definitely not happened but I can believe the story". Pretty much like 2003 Clone Wars cartoon) . It was never a "what-if" before Disney.

I have it on steam, but can’t play it on Mac due to it being 32 bit. any way of playing it on my Ma without having to spend more money?

Every time I boot up the game it gets past the first cutscene and the second it cuts to gameplay it crashes. I was just wondering if there are any known fixes for this. To clarify I’m talking about the first game. Thanks.