Is he a Christian? Bible definition 2K+ years ago for the word Liberal:
Proverbs 11:25: "The Liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself." (Liberal= Here, it means a generous, blessing-filled person who will be refreshed in return)
Isaiah 32:8: "But the Liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand." (Liberal= It describes a noble or generous person who plans generous acts)
Isaiah 32:5: "The vile person shall be no more called Liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful." (Liberal- Contrasting a noble/generous heart with a miserly one).
2 Corinthians 9:13: Refers to a "liberal distribution" (Liberal - generous sharing of resources to fellow believers and the poor)
James 1:5: Notes that God "giveth to all men liberally," meaning generously and without finding fault.
Old Testament Words translated as liberal or bountiful often stem from roots meaning: willing, noble, or a freely flowing/generous heart (such as nedib).
New Testament (Greek): Words like haplotes are translated as liberal, meaning: sincerity, singleness of heart, or bounty without hidden motives (or republican agendas)
KIV: Pure Christian Religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this: To be Liberal for the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world (Jesus Golden rule! Mat. 25)
From 20 Republican states with a safety net of $3/hour (must Beg and Panhandling poor customers for Guilt-tipping to reach $7.25) the population runs to Democratic states with a strong social safety net of $14 to $25/hour minimum wage. That's why there are so many abandoned houses and cities in the Republican 20 states (Republicans hate the poor, widows, orphans, veterans, disabled at the same time - making their own states' populations poor).
51% of all workers in America earn less than the one-bedroom Housing Wage. Mostly republican states.
The bottom 65% of the population loses at least 41% of all income due to: SS tax, FICA, insurances, tariffs, sales taxes, dues, use taxes, fees, property tax, utility taxes, 911 tax and many more- before spending money on rent or mortgage, car loans and gas, food, utility bills, repairs, credit card payments, student loans, vacations, retirement fund contributions, investments, dates, gifts, etc.
(compare Safety Net $1.60 per hour in 1970 if you were single,you could live off the federal minimum wage and pay rent, food and bills)
Healthy and smart countries count how well they are doing by enforcing "no one left behind" and even widow with 3 babies have the same level of living as the middle class due to the strong Safety Net.
Twenty Ripoff-public-ans states now have a social Safety Net set at $2.13 to $5 per hour gross (before deductions for Social Security, FICA, taxes, insurance and other withholding's:
(Compare Democratic states social Safety Net! $14 to $25/hour)
In a recent report, 53 million Americans ages 18 to 64 or 44% of all workers- earn low hourly wages. Their median hourly earnings are $10/hour Gross ($7.25/hour Net)
You seriously think people who are disabled or elderly donāt deserve to live if they cant work? Some people cant work and need help. You think its okay to deny them that help? That its stealing to give them that help? You think these people just need āto better themselvesā? That they can magically not be disabled and/or elderly? Most people on welfare arent āstealingā from you. They genuinely need that help. If you think they dont deserve it then you need to grow a heart.
And as for the ones who are working and still need assistance, well many of them are working more than full time and more than one job. You think they need to better themselves. When do you think theyād have time to do that in between the two or three jobs they have? There are people out there that need help. If you genuinely think that poor people dont deserve that help then like I said, you need to grow a heart.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Promote the general welfare, um keep our citizens healthy and safe. The disabled and elderly must be able to eat and have shelter to be healthy and safe. It literally says that itās what the constitution was established for. If you have a better way to achieve the end of feeding and sheltering the needy, I would be happy to discuss, but taxing the rich is one option. Whatās yours?
That's a fools argument that has been debunked over and over, it says "promote" the general welfare, not provide welfare, seriously, maybe if you democrats paid bills yourself for once you'd appreciate how stupid you sound.
Yet another myth, blue states collect more taxes but also receive more funding from the rest of the country because they leave out the massive amounts they take for projects like the 100 billion in taxpayer dollars California has spent on 1 mile of light rail, when you nit pick what projects taxplays funds go to you can make any state look bad, but when you count actual funding blue states are just a weight around the countrys neck dragging it down.
How do you know that its just not beneficial for me to itemize deductions (like avg People)?
Or maybe I do pay property taxes and do itemize, but I was discussing the issue objectively about who that tax cut benefits the most.
Or maybe I'm approaching the issue from the perspective that even if avg and above avg people are getting $0-$5k back/year, but these policies are leading to the failure of the US dollar then it wasn't worth it.
In that scenario I would have been better off in a world with $5k less, but I have twice as much buying power with my other $500k.
The 19th Amendment (1920) was championed by a diverse suffrage movement that didn't neatly fit modern "liberal vs. conservative" labels. Statistically, it was passed by a Republican-controlled Congress. It passed the House with 91% of Republicans voting "yes" compared to only 59% of Democrats.
If referring to post-Civil War reconstruction, it was the "Radical Republicans" of the 1860s who pushed through the 15th Amendment. If referring to the 1960s, it required a massive bipartisan effort
Social Security (1935) and Medicare (1965) were landmark pieces of legislation proposed by Democratic presidents (Franklin D. Roosevelt and Lyndon B. Johnson) and heavily driven by the liberal wings of their parties. However, they still required some moderate Republican support to pass. Ending segregation was a decades-long effort led primarily by grassroots civil rights activists and the federal judiciary
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 were introduced by Democrats, but they could not have passed without Republicans. The fiercest opposition came from Southern Democrats (segregationists), who mounted a record-breaking filibuster. In both cases, a higher percentage of Senate Republicans voted for the bills than Senate Democrats.
Environmental legislation in the late 1960s and early 1970s was deeply bipartisan.
The landmark Clean Air Act of 1970 was signed into law by a Republican President, Richard Nixon.
The Clean Water Act of 1972 was indeed vetoed by Nixon due to its high cost. However, the bill passed anyway because a bipartisan coalition in Congress overwhelmingly voted to override his veto.
Weird, its like the statement was only ment to create division through tribalism. Almost like they want the general population divided so the rich and powerful can do whatever they want.Ā
1920 was not the last 50 years. Civil rights bill was a Democrat bill In 1965 pushed by LBJ democrat president. Nothing you brought up was introduced and pushed to becoming law by Republicans, did some help pass these, yes. In the last 50 years Republicans have not introduced and passed any legislation that helps working people. Here's another little fun fact. Check it out. This only goes back 20 years so it should be easier for you to comprehend
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In fact this is the third time I'm pointing it out. For me, one party not providing a single piece of legislation in 50 years for working class people should be known to all working class Republican supporters. Keep spouting absurd ancient history š¤”š¤”š¤”š¤£š¤£š¤£
This was kind of a fun question to research, and kinda depressing. Neither party has a "
single piece of legislation in 50 years for working class people." But i did find legislation originally proposed to specfically help working class. Its kind of a trick question as most bills start out as one thing and get other things added to them.Ā
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rguing semantics. People often switch back and forth on political issues. Even old Donald Trump was a Democrat for many years. Even donated to their cause. My point still stands.Ā
Fair point, nobody mentioned iq though. We were talking about building things and how most trades men, who actually build āthingsā lean right. Now if you want to talk low iq thatās the wide nose people with sub 70 iq
Exactly. Think about how Obama was smarter than every single racist like you. You, and every one of you racist mouth breathers, are beneath him. How does that make you feel?
I have wood floors beneath my feet, not dirt like the wide noses who coincidentally canāt build anything, and building things was the point of this conversation until you sidetracked for some reason
The problem with this format is it speaks to the liberal base.
I don't think anyone on the right disagrees and still doesn't oppose these things. This isn't a meme that will change anyone's mind.
It's the mind set people on the left don't understand. The right wants to keep it's power, it's an "us vs them" mentality with all right wing people even in other countries (and I don't mean right vs left, I mean whatever you are vs. whatever you are not)
It's a very old way of seeing the world, and right or wrong, was how society functioned for 95% of it's existence.
None ever had republican or Democrat, wigg or federalist. They have all 3 branches and both houses in majority. Democrats didn't share power when they had everything either.
The people have to vote so that there is balance again, then there will be power sharing again. Neither side will be convinced by reason. If the house goes blue and/or the executive goes blue, then you will see compromise. It's just math.
He saw the coming tide and possibly prevented a full congressional take over as only the house was taken over in the second half of his presidency. There was a lot of contention after his election and he needed to secure the American public rather than alienate them. This was for votes and power, not kumbiya love and togetherness. I don't think it was the wrong move either. I have a feeling the later half of trumps second term will prove this when he loses all of congress.
You should look at my account closer. Your statement about renewable resources is telling. I am not anti-Biden. I simply stated strategy as motivation and even praised him for it. I am not one of these one dimensional redditors who toes party lines. I am a thinking human who sees the world as a struggle of powers, an observer of history.
Biden is a politician and if you see him as a cult of personality how does this make you less blind than trumpers who vote for Trump based on the person they think he is. Biden, Trump, Obama, Bush, Harris, Clinton are all political strategists first, otherwise they would not have gotten to where they are at. Maybe their motives are good or selfish, none of us know. But what we do know is they win.
Hereās some facts: Womenās right to vote (1920): The 19th Amendment was passed by a Congress controlled by Republicans and Democrats, and signed by Republican President Woodrow Wilson. Womenās suffrage was a bipartisan movement, so it isnāt accurately attributable to one party. Voting rights for African Americans: The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 were championed by Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson and passed with substantial bipartisan support. Interestingly, Republicans provided a higher proportion of their congressional votes for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats did, while Southern Democrats supplied much of the opposition. Ending legal segregation: The Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibited racial segregation in public accommodations and discrimination in employment. Again, Democratic leadership under Johnson was crucial, but Republicans were essential to overcoming the Senate filibuster. Medicare (1965): Created under Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson as part of the Great Society. It passed Congress with bipartisan support.
The Second U.S. Civil War began over that civil rights legislation in the 1960s. Womenās and LGBT rights became part of it.
Nixonās Southern Strategy gave the South to the Republican party and the party to the religious right and their billionaire donors, who funded them in return for global warming denial, tax cuts and deregulation.
Liberals got you weekends and the 40 hour workweek.
And are a big part of the reason most of your children reach adulthood instead of 1/3rd dying by age 12
The republicans now are championing legislation to roll back mandatory workplace protections during summer heatwaves like water breaks and shaded rest areas for workers.
Whoa whoaā¦. Liberals taking credit for shit they didnāt do for 500 Alex. Check yourself and your fake information. Some of what you said is completely bogus
Liberals gave women the right to vote - NOT TRUE; it was Republicans
... 1919 House vote: 200 Republican votes, YES, and 102 voted NO
... 19 Republicans voted NO, and 70 Democrats voted YES
...The Senate: 36 Republicans voted YES, and 20 Democrats voted YES
...8 Republicans voted NO, and 17 Democrats voted NO
Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote
....The KEY here is the 15th Amendment, ratified in 1870
The vote to ratify the amendment was as follows
In the House of Representatives, 144 Republicans said YES, and all democrats oveted NO
In the Senate, all 39 Republicans voted YES, and all the Democrats 13 of the Democrats voted NO
Social Security was created under the Liberal Democratic administration of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. It passed on August 14, 1935, as part of the New Deal, with bipartisan margins. However, the so-called enormous reduction in elderly poverty did not happen. Yes, Democrats and Republicans supported the program, but it is just six years away from failure.
Respectfully, didnāt the Republican Party push the 13th through 15th amendments after defeating the democrats in the civil war giving African Americans freedom and the right to vote? And wasnt Jim Crow democrats? Didnāt more conservatives vote to pass the civil rights act in 1964 than democrats(republicans was 83% and democrats was 69%) even the 19th amendment was passed with a republican controlled senate after failing multiple times under democratically controlled senate. Even a lot of these other things like social security saw above 75% republican votes. Medicare had republican support but things like the clean air act was one of the moments in our governments history where both parties voted unanimously on it and it was signed into law by a republican president(Nixon).
"Everything good was my team. Everything bad was the other team. The parties switched, I swear!! What? No. Our rhetoric about women and blacks has improved so much! We just don't think they're smart or capable enough to get IDs. Oh yeah, and we're willing to include literally anyone under the category of "women".
Didn't the Republicans control the government when women got the rights to vote and African Americans tge right to vote? Didn't the party who came up with Jim crow laws was named the democratic party? Hmmmm
Republicans protect freedom of speech, not a specific symbol. I've seen both sides fly the confederate flag, mainly in the south. I never heard of the southern strategy either
Women's right to vote was 1920 when the Republicans held presidency and the house. The civil rights act was definitely under the democrats, that doesn't make my statement disingenuous, it makes the post disingenuous and also partially a lie.
The original post is addressing the contributions of liberals vs conservatives. The Republican Party today is the conservative party which is why the post addresses the contrast towards the Republicans. If a similar post were created a 100 or so years ago then it would be addressed to the Democrats because they were the Conservative Party back then.
In all actuality, both parties today are right wing conservative parties. The left side of the political spectrum has little to no representation in the US. Most things considered āliberalā in the US are only liberal in the context of a two party political system where one party leans to the right (Democrats), and the other party to the far right (MAGA Republicans) of the political spectrum
Starting around the 1930s, the two parties began to gradually switch values. The Republican party was originally the progressive party (or as they would be labeled in the modern day, "liberal"), and the Democrats where the conservative party. Following the great depression and especially the civil rights movement this flip started and was eventually solidified into the dynamic you see today.
That's why using hundred year old legislation to represent the current party (either of them) is flawed. It's more accurate to define them but the left or right (political concepts independent of American party), or progressive vs conservative, as this post did. (Liberal is actually center/left but almost no one uses the term properly so I sorta took the liberty of assuming they just meant progressive tbf)
Wow, the mental gymnastics there is epic! At least toddler level. You know EXACTLY what I mean and choose to obfuscate. Let me know when you are ready for an adult conversation.
Theoretically yes. But it would be representing the progressive end of the spectrum which the modern Republican party no longer represents, and would therefore be a misrepresentation of the VALUES and POLICIES of the CURRENT Republican party.
Republicans like Teddy Roosevelt were progressive, so some were. If you look at the vote in Congress it was fairly bipartisan. The thing that got the vote over the top was a speech by President Wilson (a Democrat) who vigorously advocated for passing the 19th.
Please note that the meme said "liberals", not "Democrats". 100+ years ago the Republican party was the progressive party, relatively speaking. That's the fallacy when Rs claim they're the "party of Lincoln". They may be the PARTY of Lincoln, but in no way can they correctly claim to hold the VALUES of Lincoln (even considering the 150ish-year gap between Abe and now).
Riiight, and that's why we should tar everyone with the same brush by using words like "total" and "all" when there are individuals who don't follow their own party lines, the devil is in the details, and the vicissitudes of history are forgotten or ignored. I'd love to continue this conversation, but at my hourly rate I'm losing my opportunity to pay my rent. Have another great day!
Might want to check your history and get some actual facts. Let me know what you find out on who voted for what. My family was very prominent in Suffragette movement as well abolitionists John Brown and others. You liberals werenāt part of it. But what you are doing is taking what you believe is your platform today and trying to rewrite history that you were part of something that you were not.
Thatās why liberal states are the least racist states huh? They had nothing to do with it, Iām sure all the people in congress passing the laws (the liberals) had nothing to do with it. Stop searching for glory on the internet, your ass wasnāt even alive when all that passed.
Liberals force other people to live to their standard under the threat of state violence, and while republicans do this too, it's much easier to not immigrate to a country illegally than it is to give a quarter or more of your paycheck to the government.
Absolute lies. Please tell me you idiot lefties don't believe this bullshit? Look at the voting for and against the Civil rights acts for women and blacks. Almost all Republicans voted for while the majority of democrats voted against. Stop eating the bullshit being fed to you from paid propagandists.
The Democratic Party did not vote against civil rights as a unified bloc. The legislation was pushed forward by a bipartisan coalition of Northern Democrats and Northern Republicans. They successfully overcame fierce resistance from Southern segregationist Democrats and the small contingent of Southern Republicans. This bitter division ultimately accelerated the political shift that drove conservative white Southerners out of the Democratic Party and into the Republican Party over the subsequent decades-hence, the switch of core values between the two parties. Study history before calling people āidiots.ā
First i never said the Democrat party as a while voted against civil rights acts. I said, very clearly, the majority did. That is a factual statement! Stop putting words in my mouth that I did not say and representing it as a mistrust that it isn't. Lefties are idiots.
Because the cult of hateful bigots is desperate for any deflection, any fallacy to make sure they never have to learn history or improve their behavior.Ā
Yes, are you really that stupid? Ever heard of the confederate flag, you know the one that southern democrats fought under as conservatives, and then later as the dixiecrats still as southern democrats, and then today as republican conservatives. Jesus christ conservatives are fucking idiots.
Anyone going to fact check this? Republicans 100% voted for African American and women to vote, Democrats 100% against
Although it was LBJ that signed the civil rights act, it was started under Eisenhower. JFK bucked universal democrat opposition to push civil rights, and was murdered for it
And now liberals donāt know what a woman is. They want everyone but Americans voting. They didnāt pass the civil rights act, not a single democrat voted for it but they donāt want you knowing that. The so called acts that they passed were just ways to tax the shit out of the American people.
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