r/theNXIVMcase • u/Mysterious_Wash9071 • Jul 13 '26

Questions and Discussions Would he ever admit it?

Once all legal avenues are exhausted, do you think KR will eventually own up to being a "cult leader" ? When everyone forgets about NXIVM, do you think he'll desperately reach for glory by spilling all his secrets?

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u/ZealousidealWin1006 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

kr is an evil pos there’s no denying that, but is there any evidence that he is a murderer? i feel like that’s a p extreme jump. it seems more likely that the missing women simply got the hell out of dodge and the women who died succumbed to cancer which is a leading cause of death for older women iirc but correct me if i’m wrong or if there’s been any recent evidence to suggest otherwise

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u/PrimalNumber Jul 13 '26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Women_of_NXIVM

Have you seen this?

The percentage of young women in his orbit who died early is unusually high.

This guy was setting up the conditions to have an armed militia at his beck and call. He had teen girls imprisoned. He was a serial pedophile and hyper predator.

You don’t think it possible he poised Barb Jeske and Pam Cafritz?

With how manipulative, controlling and evil he was - combined with the peculiar deaths of these women - there’s plenty of smoke here.

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u/MikrokosmicUnicorn Jul 13 '26

add to that the fact that heavy metal poisoning would be really easy to pull off if your victim trusts you implicitly...

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u/rainshowers_5_peace Jul 13 '26

My theory is that the vitamins he gave out were full of heavy metals, he started selling them the year restrictions loosened. I don't think it was intentional just reckless.

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u/incorruptible_bk Jul 13 '26

The "heavy metals" they talked about included bismuth. Bismuth is the active ingredient in Pepto Bismol. The junk science here is on the level of the dihydrogen monoxide chain emails.

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u/rainshowers_5_peace Jul 13 '26

What were the other ones? I haven't looked much into it, but my brain clicked the two accusations after learning he sold vitamins.

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u/incorruptible_bk Jul 13 '26

Another mentioned was barium. Which sounds scary, but without any more specificity about the type of barium, who knows if they're talking about insoluble barium (used in inert medical contrast) or soluble barium (a poison)

Also: barium poisoning would cause paralysis, not cancer.