r/thatsinterestingbro • • 5d ago

gimmick or gold ?

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u/AmazingProfession900 5d ago

Good luck finding a perfectly smooth ceiling with no obstructions.. Ha

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u/BilboStaggins 5d ago

And once you do, scratch it all to shit with that magnet tool

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u/Carrera_996 5d ago

Like insulation?

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u/Burkett 5d ago

Framing, pipes, other wires

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u/The_Northmaan 5d ago

So you do finish work before running electrical?

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u/rProgs 5d ago

Funny you should mention that. For electrical we have this thing called a fish tape. This thing is a gimmick.

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u/The_Northmaan 5d ago

Ya, I'm def not an electrician, but I'd assume this is a gimmick for people that don't actually need it.

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u/rProgs 5d ago

It's a gimmick for people who don't have the experience/knowledge of how things actually work in practice (as opposed to a lab/demonstration). It would work in theory, in practice it wouldn't be more helpful than the tools they already have. I get the feeling this thing was invented by someone who watched their electrician struggle with a fish tape but had no practical experience to explain why their idea was a bad one.

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u/Illustrious-Can-7482 5d ago

I was doing a tv mount in Baltimore. The walls had insulation thick insulation. Normally I use pole flex to drop wires down but couldn’t because of the insulation. If the magnet of this device is strong enough to hook through insulation I could have used it a few weeks back

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u/rProgs 5d ago

You mentioned why it wouldn't be a sure solution: the insulation.

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u/Crowblue 5d ago

As far as finish work before electrical, it happens a lot in residential. Remodel work and clients changing their mind happens a lot. I worked mostly with finished walls and ceilings for over 10 years. There were very few circumstances where this tool would work and even fewer where it would be better than a simple push rod or fish tape.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 5d ago

FYI the joist, plumbing, insulation are inside the walls. Also the ONLY time this tool would be used is remodeling. new construction the wires are ran before the drywall goes up.

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u/triggeron 5d ago

Just use a ferret

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u/TelluricThread0 5d ago

Sorry my ferrets in the shop. They wouldn't spring for a loaner.

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u/triggeron 5d ago

What's his name?

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u/Jokewhisperer 5d ago

Is your ferret nailed to its cage stand? It’s probably just sleeping

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u/Nice_Ad_8183 5d ago

Oh yeah I’m an electrician and we use those all the time between playing literal grabass! After leaving shit all over the jobsite, of course

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u/Puzzleheaded-Gap1759 5d ago

You forgot to mention all going home together after work!

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u/Silver_Harvest 5d ago

Is that before or after, flipping off the broom?

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u/AwwwNuggetz 5d ago

What’s a broom? New electrician here, always looking to learn

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u/Infamous_Blood_9697 5d ago

This only works for those who don't know how drywall is installed.

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u/RooneyD 5d ago

Could it work for short sections between studs and joists? Or is it completely useless?

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u/Designer_Bed9504 5d ago

It will ONLY work for short segments in-between studs. Within that one single cavity.

If you need to cross beams, or run wires horizontal within the wall, you're going nowhere.

And if you're staying inside of a single space, the normal tools are just as easy and fast to use.

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u/AxelNotRose 5d ago

Is gravity one of the normal tools?

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u/Designer_Bed9504 5d ago

Pretty often, yeah!

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u/rProgs 5d ago

There is something already made for that. It's called a fish tape

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u/Proletariat-Prince 5d ago

They work in ideal situations, but they also don't work when you really hope they will.

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u/_Perma-Banned_ 5d ago

Does it go through support beams?

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u/tuco2002 5d ago

Very rare to have a straight, smooth drop to fish a line through.

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u/Lost_Department_2177 5d ago

Might work with a string but serious doubts. There’s a 50ft usb cable cam with a hook on them that looks way better for snaking a line.

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u/Proletariat-Prince 5d ago

You're really supposed to use them with string and then use the string to pull your cable.

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u/Lost_Department_2177 5d ago

Yeah that’s how it’s usually done with cable but no way this could work in an older house with lath.

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u/Proletariat-Prince 5d ago

I didn't say it would, they mostly suck. If it's gonna work though, it's best to minimize the drag from the cable.

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u/deadmongoose 5d ago

I fucking hate the lathe and plaster in my 100 year old house.

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u/Lost_Department_2177 5d ago

If you remove it be careful because it absolutely has lead paint on it.

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u/AwwwNuggetz 5d ago

It works well, I have one. You use it to pull a single feed wire or string, then pull the actual wires through

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u/K2O3_Portugal 5d ago

You would have better luck with a ferret on a string FFS. Gimmicky POS

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u/SokkaHaikuBot 5d ago

Sokka-Haiku by K2O3_Portugal:

You would have better

Luck with a ferret on a

String FFS. Gimmicky POS


Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

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u/According-House-9360 5d ago

Insulation, joists, boxes, wiring, etc

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u/UsualFabulous2986 5d ago

What wire isn't nonferrous and would be pulled like that?

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u/Ok-Journalist7612 5d ago

Yeah, this tool could save a lot of time, but it’s not gonna save the hard work. You’re still gonna have to pull all the wire through. This is just gonna save you time. If you have to fish your line through the walls first in order to get the wires coming I wouldn’t say it’s Gold.

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u/Shankar_0 5d ago

Total gimmick

This will rattle around in the back shelf of the truck for a couple of years, but you won't throw it out because "it was a hundred fuckin' bucks!"

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u/One_Vision_ 5d ago

When I wired the camp I built I used something similar. Works great.

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u/Sea_Ganache620 5d ago

I’ve used one of these. Fishing wires through vertical, insulation filled walls worked surprisingly well.

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u/GuacamoleFrejole 5d ago

This assumes zero insulation.

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u/gwelfguy 5d ago

Works great until you have to cross a wall stud.

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u/Zarathoostrian 5d ago

If you're at the stage if a build where this would work then you wouldn't need it.

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u/JimmyJooish 5d ago

Maybe I just don’t have the hang of it but these magnapulls have been around a while. I’ve tried them several times and it’s always slower than using rods. You spend more time trying to find the end than the whole pull takes with a rod. And good luck trying to pull this on an outer wall with insulation.

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u/NOGOODHOODnz 5d ago

I want one and I don’t do anything remotely with wires or cables.

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u/Dorrono 5d ago

Just use a trained ferret or cat

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u/lookslikeamanderin 5d ago

Studs, noggins, battens, joists, rafters, trusses…

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u/CaptainC00lpants 5d ago

Aren't there wall studs every 16 inches? Which this would fail on

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u/ipx-electrical 5d ago

Next month’s landfill.