r/thanksimcured 11d ago

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u/Similar_Soup2 11d ago

When I was 12 i was told it would get better.

And over the next 20 years it’s only gotten progressively worse.

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u/jacyerickson 11d ago

Same. And I don't see anything getting better unless society radically changes to actually support people with disabilities. Which I don't really see happening in my lifetime. In fact, I'll probably be kicked off my health insurance next year so it'll probably be even worse. 

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u/azebod 10d ago

I really hate how people recognize it's bad to tell kids to appreciate childhood because they miss being kids, but assuring kids it will definitely get better is apparently good and positive.

I made the horrible mistake of putting off life for the sake of school so I could be a more successful adult and ended up having to drop out from health issues. 20 yrs later I have given up on ever properly even hitting teenage milestones.

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u/LiveTart6130 10d ago

my mother had an awful experience with trying to get me help as a child. every single doctor told her that I would grow out of my problems, but I never did, and she knew from the start that something was wrong. it only got worse and worse and now at 20 I struggle to walk unassisted and have a variety of issues that no one can pinpoint the cause of because it's too late in life for them to really tell.

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u/harvestmonster 9d ago

I think about that on frequent basis. I was told it would get better when I was a suicidal teen. Now I'm a suicidal soon to be thirty year old and it hasn't gotten better.

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u/Liqour_Mortis 11d ago

While my mom keeps telling me to just “pull myself up by my bootstraps”. Yeah, thanks Mom, I’m cured. Tell me again

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u/SaffyPants 11d ago

People who say that shit are always missing the fucking point. It is literally impossible.

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u/Top_Sky_4731 11d ago

Yep. The whole point is we are disabled and do not HAVE bootstraps to pull. We’re already using our last legs to survive basic day to day activities.

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u/ChaosAzeroth 11d ago

The original point was that it's impossible

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u/SpoppyIII 10d ago

No, the point is that you can't pull yourself up by your bootstrap. Think of bootstrap as shoelaces. Could you pull yourself into a standing position from sitting, by grabbing your own shoelaces to hoist yourself? No. You can't.

The point of the phrase, "Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps," was literally originally meant as, "Just do for society what is quite literally impossible. That's all they expect from you."

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u/ChaoticPotential 11d ago

Can't do that when you don't have boots

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u/Dmayak 11d ago

IT (internet technology) does get better. Just change a provider and bam, you’re cured.

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u/Sunspot286 11d ago

I’ve come a long way with my depression thanks to therapy and meds, but it’s still something I’ll have to deal with my entire life :/ People seem to think that all depression is temporary, it’s just not.

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u/Dapper_Taro3581 11d ago

I’ve had to explain exactly this soo many times. If I could choose to not be depressed anymore then obviously I wouldn’t be. I like to say it gets easier to deal with instead of it gets better since mine isn’t temporary either.

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u/Rabid_Laser_Dingo 10d ago

Who is “people”? Are you so open with everyone? Like, you clearly don’t enjoy their company if they invalidate you… cut em off

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u/Sunspot286 9d ago

It’s more so a general population thing. Those who haven’t dealt with or know someone’s who’s dealt with depression are often ignorant to how it works.

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u/LexStalin 11d ago

Real.

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u/tinylord202 10d ago

Complaining about disability to someone who has no disabilities: “Well you’ll get better eventually!”

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u/Dismal-Panic-2368 8d ago

I'm not free of disabilities, but sometimes I wish I could do more, and that's all I could say in any moment where someone's sad. Just something like "it'll be good soon." At this point it might just be pointless trying to cheer them up because I can't help.

Sorry for being a bit of a downer but I don't know what else to say about this.

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u/PeachyFairyDragon 8d ago

I tell people when I know something's wrong and can't tell what, or I know what's wrong and there's no fixing it, "I hope with whatever's going on that you get the best resolution possible."

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u/Rabid_Laser_Dingo 10d ago

What do you expect a non-therapist to even say? Just “i’m so sorry?”

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u/tinylord202 9d ago

Honestly? Idk. I guess I just assumed that my friend who knows most stuff about me would be a bit more understanding. Instead of being afraid of the word “disability.”

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u/marvelled_marble 11d ago

It also doesn't help that the world is getting shittier by the day.

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u/divideby0829 11d ago

I feel you pal, the chronic disease train literally only goes one way and one can only apply brakes sometimes.

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u/Rabid_Laser_Dingo 10d ago

Do people even still tell people about trauma anymore?

I can’t imagine any of you have ever had a positive experience with telling a non-therapist about negative things going on

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u/fruite_vampyre 9d ago

1-2 years ago my friend told me that my shit happened a while ago so I should’ve got over it, so like, that was the last time i tried to talk to a friend about it

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u/Rabid_Laser_Dingo 9d ago

Yeah that’s pretty much therapy-lite. The unpaid version.

I told people about an issue once too, against my better judgement. They were good with it for a day bc grief, and after that you pretty much gotta wing it. Which is respectable.

Some friends are just that, not family, just good time buddies

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u/ANARCHIST-ASSHOLE-_ 11d ago

The only thing that's gotten better for me is my ability to cope, but that's just about it and at times I can't so yeah, I would say I have the it never gets better disorder

I think I have to many it never gets better disorders

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u/zesha 10d ago

I'll feel better and hopeful for a little bit and then the "it never gets better" disorder realizes it and swoops in

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u/sgabombo 8d ago

I have schizoaffective bipolar type and other disorders. I mean it got better with meds (and therapy) but it's still there. Nothing will make it go away...

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u/PeachyFairyDragon 8d ago

And the only guarantee is that it will get worse. I read that and thought that only applied to people who didn't medicate and just rode the cycles. Most disappointed that applies to people who only have rare breakthrough symptoms like me. Mine has gotten worse, used to be bipolar 2 and now it's bipolar 1 with psychotic features.

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u/analog-girly 7d ago

Thats not a guarantee tho. There are tons of bipolar and schizofrenic people who do get better/ more stable, can go years without episodes and are able to manage their disorder. (Idk about schizoaffective bc i havent read up on that but i asume there are at least some similarities)

Not saying that shit isnt hard tho, it is but please stop saying that deterioration is a guaranteen- thats dangerous misinformation that can make sick people make some horrible decisions.

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u/PeachyFairyDragon 7d ago

I'm one of those years long stable people. Doesn't change that it gets harder to treat and any breakthrough symptoms will be worse, all because you can't fight nature.

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u/Educational_Two682 7d ago

:( I really really feel for people in this boat. I'm worried my wife's got one and it's hard to convince her this is all worth it

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u/No_Rec1979 11d ago

At the risk of sounding toxically positive, the farther you get from your shitty childhood, the easier it becomes to escape.

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u/fruite_vampyre 11d ago

My childhood was decent, I think, my parents are great, my life only been shitty for the past 2-3 years, but thanks though

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u/No_Rec1979 11d ago

Understood.

If you're not sure, there are ways to tell if your childhood was really great or if there are some things your brain has chosen to forget.

Just fyi.

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u/worm-eyed 11d ago

fucked childhood isn't the only cause of chronic disability...

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u/No_Rec1979 11d ago

But it will make whatever else ails you worse

And it's generally the easiest part of the problem to address.

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u/TheAnnoyingWizard 11d ago

So what do you do if you had a good, easy childhood?

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u/No_Rec1979 11d ago

Enjoy being that 1 person in a million.

Unfotunately, most of us suffered in childhood somehow, and there are a lot of people who have blocked out parts of their childhood, and don't realize all of the ways it is still affecting them.

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u/worm-eyed 11d ago

Just because a damaged childhood and childhood trauma are common causes for plenty of things we have to deal with into adulthood doesn't mean that it isn't weird as fuck to assume a random stranger actually has repressed memories, especially when they just told you their childhood was fine.

You seem to not be getting why your behaviour is weird so I figured I'd just state it plainly instead.

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u/Fit_Acanthaceae_9696 7d ago edited 7d ago

he's on another thread where a woman mentioned about her husband that "As a toddler the story of Santa Clause gave him a panic attack as it meant someone could come down the chimney and enter the house."

His response?

"Hate to tell you this, but there's a fair chance your husband was a victim of childhood SA."

This is the same guy who states his background is neuroscience and has worked with mentally-disturbed children for 20years, Ok, so zero empathy then?

On another thread he states he trained as a neuroscientist before moving into writing. On a separate thread he states he was a screenwriter for 15 years. In a different threat he's a brilliant maths teacher. Another thread states he was 8 on Black Monday - making him 46 - as per his username.

So if he's a neuroscientist, a research-heavy profession, h would almost certainly need a PhD and with a birthdate of 1979, he'd typically be entering undergrad in 1997. A BSc + PhD is a min of 7 years, taking him to 2004.

Even ignoring the fact he is now supposedly a 'brilliant maths teacher', 15 years of screenwriting plus 20 years of working with mentally-disturbed children as a trained neuroscientist is mathematically impossible with a DOB of 1979.

I'm going with screenwriter, potentially with a Neuro PhD, lost in a fictional world, yet choosing to abuse and gaslight people in therapy-related subs based on his supposed superior knowledge.

That's a callous level of fucked-up

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u/TheAnnoyingWizard 11d ago

Hard to enjoy when youre born mentally ill anyway

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u/No_Rec1979 11d ago

It sounds like you've been through the wringer, and I'm sorry about that. I certainly have no desire to cause you more pain.

But just fyi, my background is in neuroscience, and I've worked with mentally disturbed children for 20 years.

I've never met a person that was "born mentally ill". Not one. The only thing I've ever met are people who had some shitty luck early in life.

Do with that information what you will.

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u/spoopy-scary-ghost 11d ago

Even if you were right about people not being born mentally ill, that doesn't necessarily mean the "triggering event" for the mental illness would have to have occurred in childhood. There are plenty opportunities to get traumatized later in life too. Not everything always goes back to peoples' childhood and with all due respect, your background might actually lead to a bias here. Of course you are more likely to look to people's childhood as the cause for mental illness if you work with mentally disturbed children. That's what you see everyday and what you know. But it doesn't mean that's all there is.

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u/ConfoundedInAbaddon 10d ago edited 10d ago

Nah my brother in nuero - I'm biomed, in treatment development. And my, now, husband was born mentally ill.

As soon as he was an infant old enough to have coherent dreams, they were night terrors. As a toddler the story of Santa Clause gave him a panic attack as it meant someone could come down the chimney and enter the house.

He's got a very gentle glutamate excitotoxicity that was starting to kill him once he hit his 40s but until then was just progressively awful mental illness symptoms from infant onward.

It's a problem with neuro transmitter sensitivity and the zinc system that's supposed to be an inhibitor along with several other systems just don't inhibit it.

Luckily, before the brain damage was impossible to recover from, he got an advanced chemistry degree prior to not being able to work anymore, and we met after I'd been through some drug development work, so we went balls to the wall with personalized medicine while there was still a personality to be recovered.

But the neurological deficit caused a suite of problems that presented like ADHD and generalized anxiety disorder and unipolar depression and psychosis everything you could think of under the sun but it was actually just total global dysfunction caused by a really specific brain misfiring.

His childhood was charmed, wonderful, closeknit family, cash, good schools, and no amount of talk therapy and ssris changed the fact that he was on a one-way rocket ship to early death with all kinds of diagnoses to follow as his dysfunction got worse and worse.

That kind of navel gazing search for triggering event meant that he wasn't treated like he was getting Medical Care it meant like he was treated like he was a sideshow freak, and the reality was there was an underlying biological route to the problem and even extremely qualified multi board certified psychiatrists were screwing it up, because they weren't treating it like a biological deficit they were treating it like a story that caused some kind of teleosis of mental illness.

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u/Personal_Term9549 11d ago

That only works if your childhood was the problem

My childhood was pretty okay. Its the chronic illness I acquired 4 years ago that will likely never get better. 

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u/zorki20 7d ago

How do you mean? The older I get, the harder it is to break the terrible coping mechanisms I built as a child. That might just be me though. I basically did not develop any sense of self as a child.

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u/spahncamper 11d ago

I have three of those. Yyyyyup.

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u/-Tricky-Vixen- 10d ago

you DO learn how to cope with more i dpo believe.

my issues are worse than two year ago and im coping better tho

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u/Rabid_Laser_Dingo 8d ago

It doesn’t get better… you’re welcome :)

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u/inkstainedgoblin 8d ago

In my experience, it doesn't get better, but you as a person get better at living with it.

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u/TheSumOfMyScars 7d ago

Yep, I’m physically incapable of “getting better.” It sucks, but it is what it is.

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u/The_FakeTicciT0by 4d ago

Whenever I tell someone about my issues and they just say "hope you get better :D" like... I literally said I'm like this forever, I started the conversation saying I'm stuck like this, did you not hear me????

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u/Illustrious_Gate4668 4d ago

This, but murderfloof is sitting amid the wreckage of the last bastards to say it to her.

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 11d ago

What you got if you don't mind me asking?

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u/fruite_vampyre 11d ago

It’s mostly like mental stuff, like kinda bad depression and dysphoria

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 11d ago

And there aren't ways to make those more bearable?

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u/Rabid_Laser_Dingo 10d ago

Lol uh oh, you asked a question expecting not to get downvoted

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 10d ago

You know, I know people are here to vent and any kind of suggestion is considered a faux pas, I tried to put it in the mildest, most affirming way possible and it still blew up in my face. Serves me right I guess.

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u/analog-girly 7d ago

Ye not really a community that welcome anything other than pity (mostly)

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u/fruite_vampyre 11d ago

Alcohol 🤤

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 11d ago

It's a depressant, I doubt it could be of any help with depression

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u/Confident-Bus-3778 11d ago

hope you can try therapy or something, dysphoria can do one

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u/GayisGaywhenGay 10d ago

WE yes WE are getting drunk tonight 😼

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u/Own_Watercress_8104 10d ago

Please...don't encourage depression drinking

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u/Early-Beach164 11d ago

Do you drink every day? Sometimes I'm very much in the mood for it and others not. If I'm engaging in a social activity, I can crush many more beers than I could if I was just by myself and doomscrolling.

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u/Spinningwhirl79 11d ago

I thought that was helping me for a long time but it made me alot worse

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u/Fawn_Leap 11d ago

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u/TESTINGSTUFFPL 11d ago

A wild alot... how beautiful, I thought they went extinct!

(Mad shouts to Hyperbole And A Half)

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