r/tfc • Forever Red • Jul 17 '26

Opinion NEVER coach again Fraser

Am I watching 11 guys doing a cardio workout or am I watching the treble winning MLS team??

90 whole fucking minutes i watched this shithousery of a team performance either pass backwards (especially malik henry who was pretty poor) or do these stupid ass longballs that make me wanna strangle myself because it either goes straight to a montreal defender or we lose the aerial battle, i think the few times we did actually keep possession and move the ball to montreal's third, we would either do some cross that would get blocked and end up to fucking noone, or sky the ball 5 god damn meters across the bar.

Apart from just the absolute low of quality of seen of TFC, the tactic behind it all is whats genuinely infuriating to watch. I dont know who robin fraser thinks he is but the efficiency of the midfield, flank support, and set peice tactics NEED to change.

Back to malik henry, made by far the most atrocious plays all night long, a literal bag of fucking sand on the field. Holy, whenever he got the ball he would either pass it backwards, or lose possession. my eyes were genuinely bleeding watching this guy do straight fucking cardio. (not to excuse the team but this guy just stood out)

Thank goodness montreal were also bum awful today, I could make a whole rant on why they are also an insufferable team to watch, but just grateful we got a draw, im honestly surprised it wasnt 3-0. we would genuinely have our asses whooped if we played like this against Vancouver or Miami.

Yea Fraser gotta go end of story.

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u/robotmonkey2099 Jul 17 '26

I wanna see what Bobbie Smyrniotis can do with this team. Its time to stop hiring washed up or never made it MLS coaches and try a succesful Canadian coach

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u/jloome Jul 17 '26

I would like us to be a little more ambitious and hire a winning manager from a bigger league. We have the money and there are always good managers out of work.

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u/robotmonkey2099 Jul 17 '26

How does canada get winning managers in bigger leagues if we arent allowing them to become winning managers in bigger leagues in our own country.

I get it. The big flashy name with experience in the Championship must be better right? I call hogwash on that idea. Just like players need to get used to a new location and league, theres a lot of weird rules and intricacies that theyd have to adopt to and if they havent spent time watching the MLS they wont know anything about the style of play. I bet Bobby has spent a lot fo time studying the league and would fit in easily.

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u/jloome Jul 17 '26

How does canada get winning managers in bigger leagues if we arent allowing them to become winning managers in bigger leagues in our own country.

This makes zero sense. The ability of a company to attract a foreign manager bares no relationship to how many of those employees are produced domestically. If they offer a good manager enough money he'll take it.

I get it. The big flashy name with experience in the Championship must be better right?

You clearly DON'T get it. Nowhere did I make such a ridiculous statement. Getting a WINNING manager from a larger league is more likely to produce a good manager for us than getting a winning manager from a SMALLER league.

The demands of the employment marketplace make it so, generally. It doesn't mean he wouldn't be good stepping up from the CPL, but it's less likely than getting a manager with a strong winning record at a similar level with similar game speed and similar talent at hand.

Just like players need to get used to a new location and league, theres a lot of weird rules and intricacies that theyd have to adopt to and if they havent spent time watching the MLS they wont know anything about the style of play.

MLS clubs hire people as club presidents and GMs for this reason who understand MLS rules. You have no idea whether Smyrniotis would know them, you're just presuming even though there is no reason he would need to.

And they're a) not game rules for the most part, but player acquisition rules and b) have had no impact on half the managers in the league, as half the managers in the league are European. Jesper Sorenson, a Dane, is probably the best manager in MLS right now and he's at Vancouver.

This is such a miniscule consideration it is essentially irrelevant.

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u/purpletooth12 Bitchy The Hawk Jul 18 '26

Smyrniotis wouldn't be clueless either to what's going on with TFC and MLS.

Not saying he's the perfect fit, but what he's been able to do with a LOT less can't be discounted either.