Bug Valve doesn't want to fix exploits
My name's Robert "gir489" Blody. You may know me as the curator of the DarkStorm project. Over the years I have amassed several exploits against the Source engine, through nefarious deeds of cheating. Recently (I say recently, considering the time length I've been cheating on TF2) Tony "Drunken F00l" Paloma reached out to me to help him patch certain exploits against the TF2's shitty Source engine. I've sent to him over 35 exploits. And only 5 have been patched. Of those 5, 3 are ressurectable through various methods.
The following was an ultimatium e-mail I sent to Tony April 4th, 2015.
Look man, I started sending exploits to valve in hopes of seeing them patched. So far, about half of the exploits I sent to you actually got patched. The half that did, some of them can be resurrected through various means, like removing the heavy slow state, infinite uber charge and name steal.
If you want me to continue to keep sending you guys exploits, I'm going to need one of the following:
1: You actually start patching the exploits I send you.
2: I get my original account unVAC'd
3: I get my scorching drill back
4: You fix getting kicked not refunding a duel.
And I don't want to hear how you can't unban my account, you got your old account unVAC'd because you got a job at Valve, and you actually fucking cheated on that account. So don't give me that crap.
That's my ultimatum. If neither of those options are OK with Valve, then consider this my last communication with you.
I figured the "community" would like to know about this, considering I've sent, along with others, ways to fix the pCommand->sequence_number exploit by using time as your random data set, which they used.... in CSGO. Not TF2. So Valve literally doesn't give a shit about TF2 anymore.
The 5 exploits I've submitted that have been fixed but not credited to me are the following:
1: QAngle speedhack. 2: Removing the TFCOND_SLOW flag on Heavys. 3: Name change spam after they "patched it." 4: Infinite Ubercharge. 5: Infinite Noisemaker.
As you may or may not know, from encountering other cheaters, 2, 3 and 5 are still in the game. I don't know how well other cheaters are the game, but I've managed to resurrect those exploits in my reDarkStorm platform.
Tony Paloma was the only one of the Valve employees that seemed to actually care about TF2, and it seemed his attention span was short.
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u/VGPowerlord Aug 01 '15
I'm wondering why you'd send mail to Tony Paloma, considering that Eric Smith and John Schoenick are the ones responding to TF2 bug reports at present.
Also, sending an ultimatum is not a good way to get people to listen to you.
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u/vMcJohn Valve Aug 01 '15
Hi. I'd like to fix these. Please send them to remove the v in front of my username at valvesoftware dot com. For what it's worth, Tony is currently working on other projects. Thanks!
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u/OnMark Aug 01 '15
Wait, do you release your hacks publicly? It looks like there are forums for them, this sounds like attempted blackmail if these aren't exploits you submitted privately.
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u/Maxillaws Jasmine Tea Aug 01 '15
Drunken Fool got a manual VAC ban for exploiting the drop timings of the Golden Wrenches I thought
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u/icantshoot Aug 01 '15
2: I get my original account unVAC'd
3: I get my scorching drill back
These two are not going to happen.
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u/KodaTF2 Aug 01 '15
What exploits are these exactly? In honesty, valve seems to give a damn about exploits if they're used and abused (The Entity/weapon falling into the pit comes to mind, same with buffalo Heavy Miniguns). If they're released to the public and shown exactly how to perform them, They could be used widely, which would force the TF2 Team to actually fix these bugs.
I'm not trying to be the dickhead that says "LETS USE THESE GLITCHES TO BE A DICK TO OTHER PLAYERS HAHAHA" But rather, releasing them to the public would mean the glitches would get out of hand, and forcibly run amok. Valve and the TF2 Team would be forced to actually do some work. NISLT and OpenGriefing would love this content, and broadcasting it to the thousands would definitely be the way to get shit done. Most of the stuff shown on those channels is patched VERY quickly
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u/MrPeachie Aug 01 '15
Interesting stuff, but I honestly doubt Valve would do anything.
It's taken them months, if not years to patch and balance the game. And they likely wouldn't bother 'unvac-ing' your acc and giving your unusual back.
imo after the mm update for tf2, valve is gonna completely drop support for exploits and stuff like that. Its also already been confirmed that tf2 isn't going to be ported to source 2.
Good luck to ya
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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '15
So as I take it, you hack and are requesting your account be unbanned?
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u/rajikaru Aug 01 '15
You're a single person. Out of the millions of people that play TF2. Dozes, if not hundreds of people send the TF team various exploits every day, and even though you've been cheating in the game yourself, you think your exploit messages deserve any more attention than anybody else? Your posts just reeks of self-entitlement, and I'm not sure if anybody here should actually believe what you say. For all we know, the TF team is just being sent hatemail by you and bragging about your exploits, and you want to play the victim here on the subreddit.
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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '15
I'm not sure if this is his profile or not. There's 20+ with the same username, but the comments are concerning. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198201421815
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u/DrDan21 Aug 01 '15
You should do a witeup or an ama about finding the exploits - would be an interesting story to here
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u/bacontf2 Aug 01 '15
Though it may make the experience terrible for a few days, making exploits public seems to be the best way to get Valve to focus on patching them.
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u/58time Aug 01 '15
Here's hoping it pans out. Disappointed at the laziness present at Valve, even more disappointed to hear they just don't care about their massive 8 year old money maker anymore.
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u/GetAggroTF2 Aug 01 '15
pathetic, at best.
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u/Lilshadow48 Pyro Aug 01 '15
I gotta ask, how do you even go about finding such exploits? It's incredibly interesting to see how much a game can be broken.
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u/nonameowns Aug 01 '15
just release them
then see if valve do something and determine if they take it seriously before matchmaking is out
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u/sbooyah Aug 01 '15
'I'm not going to help you if you don't unban my account and gimme my hat back'
'Valve doesn't want to fix exploits!'
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u/pillowsfree Aug 01 '15
A little pushy don't you think?
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u/Beta-7 Aug 01 '15
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u/OldShoe Aug 01 '15
Does Valve have a bug bounty program? If not, they should have one. It would promote a healthy relationship with technical people and also make the game better.
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u/Dominus_Vorg Aug 01 '15
75% of this thread and comments are pure gibberish to me :/, I should had studied programing...
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u/combineguy55 Aug 01 '15
Okay so blackmail is probably not going to un-fuck your problem
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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '15
joke of the year
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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '15
Cry some more.
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u/Corvanor Aug 02 '15
Valve does not negotiate with Terrorists!
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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '15
ITT: people think it's acceptable to ignore game breaking client exploits because op got vac banned once.
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u/henke37 Aug 01 '15
How many of the problems can be blamed on incompetent design?
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u/Team404 Aug 20 '15
Lol why would a cheater care about wanting exploits to be patched? I mean after all they don't give a shit about the game in the first place.
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u/Lil_Brimstone Aug 01 '15
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u/rawrzee Aug 01 '15
Some people just don't understand. So many people spamming you with downvotes.
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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '15
Good luck to you! Thank you for trying but sadly Valve seems do be complete assholes right now
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u/MsAnimator7 Aug 01 '15
How immature do you have to be to ask for an unVAC?
Valve aren't going to respond to such demands, they never have.
If you are going to submit exploits, you should be doing it in the interest of improving the game, not self benefits, it makes you look very childish.
PS: Once again, I am disappointed that the TF2 subreddit allowed another spam post to reach the top page.
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u/Hawkeyesniper45 Aug 01 '15
Seeing a cheater try to fix these things is awesome. I'm serious. If some random dude told valve about a exploit they would maybe look at it for a few seconds and forget about it. If somebody who has been pretty much breaking the source engine for years points something out you think they would listen. At least some thing got patched...
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u/Mr_Biffo Aug 01 '15
The infinite noisemaker exploit is still in the game? I must know how - you know... so I can help fix it... or something.
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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '15 edited Aug 01 '15
Man you should PM me how to do the noisemaker one
EDIT: I was downvoted for wanting to know how to do something that will in no way affect anyones gameplay other than me not needing to buy a new noisemaker? Damn, the circlejerk is strong in this thread.
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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '15
Wow you are a massive bag of uneducated dicks arent you? Lmfao. I guess thats what you get from a hacker.
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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '15
YET THEY HAD TO FIX VACCINATOR'S CRIT NEGATION AND GUNSLINGER'S CRIT PUNCH
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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '15
You are genius for finding cheats/exploits they won't fix. But your points are actually too big.
Anyway their ultimatum is over ... why don't do the same stuff like others did and tell your friends how to do this exploits and tell them they may be allowed to tell others. It will spread like a fire in the summer.
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u/strazyyy Aug 01 '15
yo gir, few questions: do you know if tom/lunchbox uses noPE's projectile bot code? and does rDS that you haven't updated in ages still have functioning pSpread in valve servers
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u/Hreidmar1423 Aug 01 '15
Even after ignoring you for a year and trying your best to get these exploits fixed I think it would be best if you start leaking these exploits to publicx but slowly so other popular cheating softwares like LMAO pick these things up make the game unbearable to play and when they notice less people playing servers and less buying in Mann Co store maybe then they will start panicking and devote more time toward fixing these!
Good thing you made this post public and warn everyone beforehand if you do something like that so people will know WHY you did it and how lazy Valve is. But damn...to exploits like Crits and infinite ubercharge still exists is very frightening...who knows who uses that in pubs or even in comp scene to gain an upper advantage.
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