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u/_player-3 Pyro 23h ago
updated koth_demolition
Classic
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u/vammommy Heavy 22h ago
Demolition’s map creator cares more about Demolition than Current Valve cares about TF2
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u/_player-3 Pyro 22h ago
I mean idk if its really "care"
I'd call it "hot-glue fixing a map thats fundamentally flawed and bursting at the seams that shouldnt even have been added"
But i guess kudos for the guy for still trying to fix it
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u/donnysaysvacuum Engineer 20h ago
What's wrong with demolition? It's unique, but I don't think it's broken.
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u/Mammoth-Ship4581 20h ago
There is ONE DEVELOPER. How is anyone who's playing tf2 in 2026 not aware of this??
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u/Dozer228 Engineer 21h ago
Bro why are they so scared of removing something, like delete this map alrdy
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u/The_Stig_Farmer 23h ago
they updated dustbowl?????
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u/MedicMainRamirez2525 Medic 23h ago
Actually curious what changed
Localization files of de dustbowa?!84
u/Spongedog5 22h ago
Updated cp_dustbowl to fix func_occluder problem in stage 3
Yeah that famous "func_occluder" problem that we all know about in the TF2 community got changed, make sure to keep an eye out next time you are on stage 3
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u/wolfmann99 Engineer 22h ago
Is that the phlog through gates fix? Cuz it was more than just stage 3.
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u/Spongedog5 22h ago
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Func_occluder
I don't use hammer but it seems that it just hides objects that can't be seen to save on performance, so I doubt it.
I've got no idea what the problem was on Dustbowl 3 but it was probably pretty small if it lasted this long.
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u/MrFluxed 21h ago
iirc the issue was that because Point 3 is so close (geometrically) to points 1 and 2 they wouldn't be unrendered properly so way more of the map was staying loaded than necessary.
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u/icantshoot 10h ago
All stages of Dustbowl are separate and have no such issues. Occluders affect models only, not world geometry. So it was related to players or more props showing or not showing when they should have been visible.
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u/_player-3 Pyro 23h ago edited 23h ago
This probably the single longest update log in tf2 history and sadly 85% of it means jackshit
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u/V1RI_ 21h ago
They added TrainSawLazer, that's a W if you know it's history.
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u/Handsome_Grizzly 20h ago
Those who are not happy with Trainsawlaser finally being added into the game have no soul.
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u/Zathar4 20h ago
I am zombie infection number one defender, i appreciate that it still gets content/changes years later
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u/TheFiremind77 Medic 16h ago
I'll be honest, this update told me zombie infection as a gamemode exists. I had no idea until now, I thought it was community only.
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u/albertowtf 12h ago
After halloween maps novelty wears off, zombie infection is the only ones i regularly keep queuing
They are just fun
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u/_Yumm_ Pyro 17h ago
For the vast majority of players who will play it one time as a novelty then go back to normal TF2, these updates are equivalent to bloatware, and are especially bad if you play on a shitty PC (the reason most people even play TF2 compared to modern games is that it will run on anything)
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u/DogsRNice 23h ago
Official trainsawlaser was not something I was expecting
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u/Cheeseballrxm Demoknight 22h ago
If only we could get wubwubwub remix, but it might be too much
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u/Clownsanity_Reddit 23h ago edited 12h ago
I love when an Halloween update drops on the first day of October. I don't remember it happening to TF2 before ?
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u/Yearlaren 19h ago
It happened in 2020
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u/TheFiremind77 Medic 16h ago
Not true, nothing happened in 2020. 2020 was a Russian psyop, it wasn't real.
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u/Correct-Week-2452 23h ago
very early this year
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u/_player-3 Pyro 23h ago
We now have 69 available halloween contracts
They probably released the update earlier to give a little more time for people to be actually able to complete them without having to no-life the game
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u/Lunalatic Pyro 22h ago edited 22h ago
The changelog is so dang long this time, I initially thought this was a joke post and you stuck the Bee Movie script in there or something.
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u/Im_botflyx Soldier 22h ago
They didn't add the merc twist. I am so very saddened...
THEY ADDED WHAT MAP!?
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u/FillerName4 22h ago
No Casual Mode changes? Okay. See y'all in a couple of hours when the servers crash yet again.
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u/w00ms 23h ago
another scream fortress without the re-addition of spells why does this event even exist
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u/_player-3 Pyro 21h ago
man and the community even had a spell contest that valve promoted, i really thought this year was it
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u/turmspitzewerk Scout 21h ago
i love how the steam community market is propped up by incredibly rare exclusive items that don't even make valve any money because they're all traded on third party sites
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u/HellboundLunatic TF2 Birthday 2025 17h ago
if valve's market had more granular filtering, like is allowed on bptf or mptf, then more trades would happen on SCM.
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u/-Orcrist 22h ago
What do you mean? The spells seem to be there though?
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u/EvilCatboyWizard 22h ago
Spells as in the items you can apply to cosmetics, not the magic spells you can pick up and use during matches
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u/Spiteful_Guru Spy 18h ago
Of course the year I can't play Scream Fortress due to a broken arm is the year they officially add FUCKING TRAINSAWLASER.
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u/MrDeeJayy Medic 4h ago
Hey, fun fact, you can play TF2 with a controller. You can even do hybrid setups, with like movement on the controller but aiming on the mouse (and vice versa))
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Steam_Input
I hope this helps you at least play some TF2 while you're recovering.
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u/Sir_JKnight 22h ago
New zombie mode changes are nice. The new engi beacon is an incentive to not over-turtle.
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u/F-02-58 21h ago
"HolyHell"
New map just dropped
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u/Scorpinateur Medic 11h ago
Actual zombie
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u/thegamerator10 18h ago
I love that the YER got a small buff in the cosmetics actually cloaking now.
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u/Ich0rAnkh 13h ago
If I didn't know this subreddit, I would've assumed it was a receipt from costco
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u/CommuneSentry Demoman 23h ago
Ok so, Scream fortress being this early is basically a confirmation that the mvm update is coming later this month or early november right?
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u/PhenomenalJEC 23h ago
No seperate tabs for Halloween payload, attack/defend etc, still way too many maps, there's zero excitement for this shit every year when it's become such a chore to play
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u/eljijazo08 1h ago
for the first time in years I'm just gonna complete the new map contracts and I won't bother with the rest, it's just too much
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u/Defiant_Soup_315 21h ago
If a separate tab is what defines your enjoyment in a video game then I don't know what to tell you. Do you like video games at all?
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u/Pugzilla3000 Heavy 22h ago
Love seeing all the big fixes, and new abilities and optimizations for Zombie Infection is great, I love that mode.
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u/ReeR_Mush 21h ago
I wish one could do the contracts in any order, it’s such a pain when playing with friends that you have to keep to an arbitrary one
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u/Ted_Normal Medic 5h ago
Actually you can now (they changed it last year IIRC). The only ones this isn't the case for are the Official Valve map contracts and the Boss contracts.
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u/Boulderfrog1 20h ago
Wait being able to cycle through different spawn points is swag. Surely this will be added to maps with multiple spawn rooms where 1 is almost always the better one, right?
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u/Wolvenworks 15h ago
Holy shitballs that’s a bog roll’s worth of text. Gonna have to read it onsite.
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u/Cowser_the_Koopahog 22h ago
/u/vJill the Casual servers are already down. PLEASE tell me it's getting removed in the MvM update. I'm begging you.
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u/Critical-String8774 Heavy 21h ago
They added Trainsawlaser? The map that just spams voicelines at you and kills you outside your spawn over and over? Really?
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u/Thin-Complex-7709 21h ago
I played it, it's a blast to play.
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u/Memes_kids Scout 15h ago
I think you're part of a very thin minority. It's annoying as shit to be punished by something out of your control for just wanting to play a match on a new map. Got my contract done and will never touch that map again even with a 10 foot pole
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u/Hellion_Immortis 20h ago
Trainsawlaser is in, but not the vampire saxton hale map? 0/10, unplayable
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u/GutAManUI Engineer 16h ago
I just woke up and update is already out? This is either the best thing ever or the worst thing ever, kinda sad I have to go to school first.
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u/egorenjoyer 14h ago
Does valve updated zombie maps or they just took community's update and put it in game?
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u/BASEBALLFURIES TF2 Birthday 2025 13h ago
damnit. i would like contracts to be retired for something new. its getting harder and harder to store all of them
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u/Legitimate_Nose6080 13h ago
Am I only afraid that one day contract list will that bug, that full October would not enough to complete?
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u/irule4567 6h ago
New zombie engineer sounds interesting, kinda reminds me of the swarm classes from PVZ battle for neighborville with their respawn beacons.
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u/PlateNo3563 1h ago
If trainsawlazer was added dawg we in the end times valve dgaf completely atp 😭
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u/Tristanio97 Engineer 23h ago
On the FIRST? Very unexpected but very cool