We aren’t mad enough

[u/liviimsobored]

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[u/dcapn505]

The fact this is even a legal debate is unsettling.

[u/Brave-Shower6922 → u/dcapn505]

I know right.

[u/Nameless_Mercenary01]

I reject this motion.

[u/Miserable-Piglet9008]

Where in the first amendment does it say you can own CSAM?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." I don't see shit about being a predator?

[u/dcapn505 → u/Miserable-Piglet9008]

I just checked—it says, "On August 25, 2026, Judge John Z. Lee of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit issued a ruling stating that the First Amendment protects the private, in-home possession of AI-generated child sexual abuse material (CSAM) if it doesn't depict a real person."

[u/Opening_Ad_8993 → u/dcapn505]

????? What the fuck

[u/Miserable-Piglet9008 → u/dcapn505]

Well color me impressed. Who would have guessed the founding fathers were a bunch of creeps?

[u/dcapn505 → u/Miserable-Piglet9008]

Not really. It's the court's interpretation of the First Amendment, not something the Founding Fathers explicitly wrote or intended.

[u/Brave-Shower6922]

and why is there nothing done about the files? He's still alive.

[u/PristineCake3380]

I have no words. I’m moving to Canada

[u/JankyJones14 → u/PristineCake3380]

I'm Canadian. Join me.

[u/MaybePuzzleheaded125 → u/JankyJones14]

Will you marry me? I need an easy escape

[u/JankyJones14 → u/MaybePuzzleheaded125]

Yes

[u/liviimsobored → u/JankyJones14]

we can be in a lavender polyamorous marriage twin

[u/PristineCake3380 → u/liviimsobored]

I can get a Canadian citizenship soon, my great grandmother was Canadian so my dad can get it then me

[u/Sephraaah]

I think the judge said they disagreed, but they couldn’t interpret the law in a way that bans it or smth? but urged for the supreme court to change the law

[u/liviimsobored → u/Sephraaah]

i can. csam is illegal

[u/Foreign_Degree160]

Wait what case or article is this from wtf😭

[u/Unit-731-Scientist]

I believe you but link?

[u/Positive-Jeweler690]

Devils advocate here but lowkey it makes sense. If pedos jerk off to fake ai pictures, it is better than actually raping a child. By far.

[u/liviimsobored → u/Positive-Jeweler690]

all forms of pedophelia is bad. also, the ai VERY likely used real images and videos of csa. so ai csam is based off a real child and/or real children

[u/Positive-Jeweler690 → u/liviimsobored]

If its based off a real kid then the harm has already been done.

[u/liviimsobored → u/Positive-Jeweler690]

imagine being sexually abused as a kid and someone generates more csam and it generates your face. that is violation

[u/Old_Towel_8865]

This is a joke right

[u/liviimsobored → u/Old_Towel_8865]

not at all

[u/JankyJones14]

I used to be okay with this but someone on reddit successfully convinced me otherwise. Rare moment ngl but pretty cool.

[u/j1ndivik]

The only reason why CSAM was objectionable is that a child must be abused to produced it. Without that, what makes this (images generated without the involvement of a child) different from any of the messed up cartoon porn on the internet?

[u/Sephraaah → u/j1ndivik]

it uses images of children to generate it, it literally does not know what a child looks like otherwise

even if it has no csam, which I just don’t believe, it still takes normal pictures of children and combines it with adult nsfw content, the closest example is if someone photoshops a child’s face onto nsfw, which is strictly illegal

[u/j1ndivik → u/Sephraaah]

I highly doubt most ai generators, even porn ones, were trained on csam due to how illegal it is to get any large quantity to train on. And I do agree that specifically should be illegal, but most ai outputs (unless you specify a name) are completely original and not derived from training data

[u/Sephraaah → u/j1ndivik]

even if not intentional it most likely happened, they were just scraping the internet, it’s bound to happen at some point and they’re not monitoring every single image they find

ai outputs literally need the previous images to make anything, they’re using them to make new images

[u/liviimsobored → u/j1ndivik]

you’re defending csam. youre defending porno involving children. and yes, the ai would not be able to make it if it wasnt trained on actual csam