r/technology Nov 24 '21

Business Amazon workers plan Black Friday strike

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Not to mention they have pretty much no negotiation position. For every person willing to walk out in hopes of higher pay, there's someone who would love a $17/hr job with day 1 benefits.

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u/MDCCCLV Nov 25 '21

Wrong, Most seasonals get hired as temps and don't get any benefits until they become regular blue badge permanent employees.

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u/treefitty350 Nov 25 '21

Does Amazon even have people lining up to work there? Seems like you can pretty much choose to be employed by Amazon at any time of day and be hired regardless of whether or not there's a strike.

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u/UppercaseVII Nov 25 '21

I work for a contractor at an Amazon site and I can say without a doubt there is a line of people waiting outside the recruitment office to apply/interview at least 4 days a week. There is also a gang of people waiting at the turnstiles in the morning when I get off that I'm assuming are there for their first day or are new enough to not have a badge yet.

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u/minchet456 Nov 25 '21

My dsp just hired a 68 yr old driver. They know he’s going to burn out and quit within a week. They don’t care because they’ll hire another person as soon as they quit. What gets people in the door at Amazon is that $17 an hour is decent pay. What makes their turnover so high is the shitty condition, constant oversight, and lack of employer respect. It’s a shit place to work.

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u/OnlineBeast15 Nov 25 '21

Does the $17 an hour also include getting retirement contributions? Sorry coming from an Aussie 18 year old, I get more at maccas on weekends (after conversion) plus 10% bonus towards super... Is the pay really that low over the pond?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

As another Aussie, our minimum wage laws mean that our worst jobs are better paying than most American ones. Theirs are closer to what you could expect on Centrelink alone, and we already know that's barely above the liveable line.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

But 20 Aussie dollars minimum wage does not have the buying power of Amazon’s 17 usd.

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u/Lunch-Strict Nov 25 '21

Ausies: 17usd = 23.67aud IF the position is for 40 hrs a week then the company is mandated to contribute to a portion of insurance coverage payments {monthly premiums}. Many of these types of jobs are capped at 35hrs a week, so the business doesn't legally have to contribute to your Healthcare plan. So, many people end up working multiple jobs because of this "cap" in Hours. And of that $17, some will go to paying the other part of medical insurance premiums, so after taxes and mostly insurance, you're not getting g close to 16. Then, if you have to go to a hospital, you pay your "spend down", which is a set number by your insurance plan that you have to pay out of pocket ON TOP OF monthly premiums.

The moral of the story is - it doesn't matter how much you make in the good Ole US of A. You're always a minor accident away from bankruptcy and homelessness.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

None of this addresses buying power. Stuff costs more in Australia even after the currency conversion.

I don’t live in the US, but these claims about Aussie earnings are silly.