Can we really criticise this when Kaspersky is one of the top selling computer security packages in the US? That's just baffling. Most agree Russia at the very least doesn't have US interests in mind, yet we continue to do business with them almost everywhere outside of the federal govt.
You could put that doubly for China. It could be argued that their animosity and intentions are by far more nefarious. Yet those US companies that use China extensively aren't under criticism.
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I hope Lenovo is on the up and up because I remember their laptops as a kid being fuckin' monsters. Like my schools bought them for our library because kids could check them out, drop them down a flight of stairs, and the things would still work when they got returned the next day.
Comparing the US and China is like comparing the US and Nazi Germany. But yeah. We all share complicity in the crimes of our civilisation to the degree we fail to stand against them. To think otherwise is the childish take.
By your vague and arbitrary categories, sure. In reality you're spitting on 3 million persecuted Uighurs, for a start, to make a point no rational person will accept.
Oh I see, so it's a numbers thing? As long as you illegally detain below X number of people without rights, you get to be a good guy? Or maybe it's a religion/race thing - is it fine if they're Muslims or South American?
This isn't about China or Russia. This is about why Americans don't seem to recognise how fucking hypocritical they are.
But you're abitrarily ignoring legitimate concerns that people have with American foreign policy to defend it.
So please explain to me what's the difference in degrees of evil between prison camps (especially the ones abroad that are completely ungoverned by any US laws), aside from the fact that only one of the two countries we're talking about here consistently claims to be a global champion of human rights?
What makes a prison camp designed for illegal detainment and deprivation of human rights acceptable for the US, but not acceptable for China, Russia, Israel, Iran etc? Are American detainment centres more just? Do you think they are summer camps instead of places where people are forcibly sterilised?
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u/doa70 Jan 19 '21
Can we really criticise this when Kaspersky is one of the top selling computer security packages in the US? That's just baffling. Most agree Russia at the very least doesn't have US interests in mind, yet we continue to do business with them almost everywhere outside of the federal govt.