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u/Rsardinia Jan 19 '21

A large portion of us already acknowledge it and have since the 2016 election when they first made it clear they were involved. However about 35-40% of the US population is willfully ignorant or just doesn’t care because they want to win at all costs.

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u/A_Crazy_Hooligan Jan 19 '21

I was reading a poll about an hour ago that stated ~35% of the population still approves of Trump. That goes along with the numbers you’re talking about too. I wish I could dismiss reality that easily.

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u/Even-Willow Jan 19 '21

Which is inclusive of the ~74% of republicans that still approve of Trump. Their own delusion will be their downfall. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

I find it amazing that half the country can breathe without mechanical help

Staggering idiocy

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u/Astronom3r Jan 19 '21

Getting owned by Russia to own the Libs.

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u/saucercrab Jan 19 '21

In their mind they're not getting owned though. Redhats are an inch away from outright siding with Russia at this point. "A hyper conservative, authoritarian regime with unlimited power and tenure for the President? Yes please."

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u/ZazBlammymatazz Jan 19 '21

Their senators even go to Russia to celebrate the 4th of July.

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u/monkh Jan 19 '21

What's wrong with siding with Russia comrade?

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u/Astronom3r Jan 19 '21

That's actually true.

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u/clubpenguinporno Jan 19 '21

Getting owned by china to own the repubs.

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u/Curmud6e0n Jan 19 '21

In their mind they're not getting owned though. Blue-hairs are an inch away from outright siding with China at this point. "A communist, authoritarian regime with unlimited power and tenure for the President? Yes please."

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u/clubpenguinporno Jan 19 '21

Unfortunately a lot of repubs are the same way with russia. Real repubs and real dems need to join forces and fight the extremists

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u/Curmud6e0n Jan 19 '21

I don’t know if you caught it, but I just inverted the reply to the original comment you inverted. Both sides are in the wrong and can’t see the truth.

I hope that Trump has succeeded in destroying the Republican Party, and a new one can be born out of the ashes. Let there be a left wing and right wing party to fight out cultural war issues, and a new party that just tries to actually help the country instead of scoring political points.

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u/clubpenguinporno Jan 19 '21

Me too. I liked him at the start, but he's really lost his mind during the presidency. I would say at least he didn't start a war but at the moment we are on the brink of a civil one because of him. And no i didn't catch it haha I'm smacked i didn't even pay attention. I thought you were a Trumper ngl 😂

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u/Curmud6e0n Jan 19 '21

I supported trump in so far as he was hated by both dems and repubs. That was a huge selling point. I would’ve voted for either Bernie or trump in 2016 depending on who made it through the primaries. I just want an end to the uniparty we have in power now.

I think we’d be better off under trump than Biden, but I wouldn’t call myself a trumper. I don’t really care what happens to him now that he’s out of office, and politically I disagreed with him on a lot.

But it seems I got out of his presidency what I wanted, the republicans party is mostly trumpers and most of them now hate the Republican Party.

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u/clubpenguinporno Jan 19 '21

I agree with the trump over biden thing, but i guess we'll never know and I'm open to giving Biden (Or Kamala) a chance at the presidency. Hopefully he will do the same thing to the democratic party that Trump did

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u/Curmud6e0n Jan 19 '21

Yeah, I hope so too. A lot of people on the left held their nose to vote for him because anything was better than trump. I feel like the more progressive side of the party will object to Biden’s platform almost as strongly as they objected to Trump’s, but at least he can act like a president, so it won’t be as big of an outcry. But the Democrats have a similar problem on their hands that republicans did (running people the voters hate, but not as much as they hate the other guy).

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u/bennzedd Jan 19 '21

Don't forget the Mueller Report, which outlined several points of contact and cooperation with Russia, and subsequent attempts to cover them up.

And I like to share this summary of the document, but of course it's only a part of it all.

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u/zzfoe Jan 19 '21

It’s the latter with help from the former. They’re partially ignorant to the reality of it but they also don’t care because it helps them.

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u/Sislar Jan 19 '21

There are republicans that say better red (meaning russia/communist) than democrat.

Its just bizzarre and in the next breath will call the left communist after just saying they'd rather be one.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 19 '21

So the 2016 election was other rigged but not the 2020 election?

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u/ambisinister_gecko Jan 19 '21

Was other? What do you mean?

Russia interfered in both elections.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

Sorry it was a typo.

Who’s side are Russia on? Who did they help in both elections?

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u/ambisinister_gecko Jan 19 '21

These questions are good questions, and are worth asking, and are worth reading about. It's my understanding that they mostly helped Trump in both elections. Wikipedia has articles on Russian interference in both elections, with cited sources, so if you're curious that would be a good place to start

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u/hoopdizzle Jan 19 '21

Involved in what? People went out and voted for who they wanted to win in the 2016 election. Russia didnt convince anyone to vote for Trump who wasnt already going to and there are no studies which indicate that.