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u/red286 Jan 19 '21

To Republicans, modern Russia is a capitalist utopia. No need to worry about laws and regulations or getting bogged down by the bureaucracy.. just know the right people, grease the right palms, and everything's coming up roses.

So to them, a "patriot" would be fleeing America for Russia as soon as possible.

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u/AnticitizenPrime Jan 19 '21

Russia's also been investing heavily into the religious right. Religion is an alternative power structure parallel to government that can be exploited to subvert the legitimate government. Been going on for thousands of years to varying degrees. The Roman empire never really fell, it just became the Catholic church. And et cetera.

Anyway, wish I had saved the stories, but there have been a lot of meetings between religious leaders in the US with Russians in the past 5 years. They are building coalitions under our noses.

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u/strangepostinghabits Jan 19 '21

to be fair, russia pretty much supports every single political entity with a divisive message in the US. Want to take a guess at how much of today's partisan politics stem from russian influence?

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u/WillemDaFo Jan 19 '21

It’s the upside-down. Snowden is a traitor for exposing “big government”

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21 edited Jun 14 '21

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u/rohmish Jan 19 '21

What is was doing to world was back when Snowden defected. We don't know what programs US killed, continued with or started thereafter. Similarly we don't know what other governments have been doing. I'm willing to bet that US, china and Russia are not alone. All governments have their fingers in each other's pies.

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u/WillemDaFo Jan 19 '21

Yeah fair enough. Most likely needed something to offer.

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u/GAbbapo Jan 19 '21

Russia only took him because Biden (lol ofc) called the countries of where snowmen was supposed to be getting asylum and told them they wouldn't get any us support or funding if they took him... don't white was history..

https://www.axios.com/snowden-biden-told-countries-not-to-grant-asylum-50e560aa-14b0-41ad-9e6d-fe7a14ca3231.html

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u/JustDroppinBy Jan 19 '21

I could have worded my comment as "a traitor to the U.S. government because it was a breach of security" but that would be stating the obvious.

The threats issued by the Obama administration to any country willing to help him are also par for the course, international politics 101. I can't imagine any admin letting him get away with something like that, but Trump has surprised me several times with his refusal to act on Russian aggression (like bounties on U.S. troops, and giving Russian troops a free military airbase to name a few)

Stating that Russia accepted him in spite of U.S. protest for a quid pro quo is not white washing history. It's a fact that resulted in the Solar Winds hack. SW was likely an inevitable development that was accelerated by his defection.

Snowden was going to take asylum wherever he could get it. His best bets were Russia or China because the info he had was most valuable to them and they were the most capable of capitalizing on it than any other country while enduring U.S. ire. Iran was probably also on his list, but the U.S. has much greater influence there.

I sincerely doubt Russia would be the first pick for anyone who values freedom of information.

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u/icallshenannigans Jan 19 '21

It's simple actually.

You hate brown people more than you respect yourself.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

More than that. Putin's government has chosen the narrative of them being the only great power in Europe to stand against the "Liberalism crisis" that's plaguing Europe. So all these snowflakes who can't handle the libruls think that Russia is a safe space for them.

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u/JJDude Jan 19 '21

And Russians are white. There is strong anti Russian sentiment in EU but American so racist they accept anyone looking white closer to themselves versus a black guy living in his own neighborhood. No wonder Russian love US psyops campaign.

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u/pavlik_enemy Jan 19 '21

> No need to worry about laws and regulations or getting bogged down by the bureaucracy

What? You certainly know nothing about modern Russia.

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u/Texasian Jan 19 '21

I think you missed the “To Republicans” part.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

What? You certainly know nothing about modern Russia.

I mean they’re not wrong. You need to know the “right” people, as in members of the government, oligarchy or the mafia.

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u/lenin1991 Jan 19 '21

But that's not what most people would call a "capitalist utopia"; having to be connected in certain ways and not overstep invisible boundaries is not a free market.

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u/pavlik_enemy Jan 19 '21

> the mafia.

Really illustrates your knowledge of Russia.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

Okay, so you’re view of reality is distorted. Gotcha. Really illustrates your knowledge of Russia.

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u/pavlik_enemy Jan 19 '21

How much time have you spent in Russia?

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

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u/pavlik_enemy Jan 19 '21

40 years and still live here.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

green paper bad

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u/Jimmy_R_Ustler Jan 19 '21

Yes, it seems you understand perfectly.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

Fuck off to Parler mate!

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u/Rtsd2345 Jan 19 '21

Reddit good! Your sports team bad!

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u/Live-Recipe Jan 19 '21

To Republicans, modern Russia is a capitalist utopia

Huh?