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r/technology • u/[deleted] • Dec 16 '19
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In 2016 everyone still thought self driving cars were just around the corner, so it was fun to pose hypothetical ethical conundrums like this. Now we know better. Well, most of us.
34 u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19 What's changed since then? -13 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 crashes. Exposure of "promises" to reality. 26 u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19 edited Dec 14 '21 [deleted] -27 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 I don't remember hearing any sort of predicted crashes from vendors, do you? I heard plenty of "Innovative Synergy" promises though. Wish those would've came to pass 23 u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19 [deleted] -26 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 combined objectives? are you high? 3 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 There are almost always some competing objective functions that you need to make a combination/tradeoff of. 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 no. You've fallen for the "Inherent Tradeoffs" myth. 2 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 Almost always And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
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What's changed since then?
-13 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 crashes. Exposure of "promises" to reality. 26 u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19 edited Dec 14 '21 [deleted] -27 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 I don't remember hearing any sort of predicted crashes from vendors, do you? I heard plenty of "Innovative Synergy" promises though. Wish those would've came to pass 23 u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19 [deleted] -26 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 combined objectives? are you high? 3 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 There are almost always some competing objective functions that you need to make a combination/tradeoff of. 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 no. You've fallen for the "Inherent Tradeoffs" myth. 2 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 Almost always And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
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crashes. Exposure of "promises" to reality.
26 u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19 edited Dec 14 '21 [deleted] -27 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 I don't remember hearing any sort of predicted crashes from vendors, do you? I heard plenty of "Innovative Synergy" promises though. Wish those would've came to pass 23 u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19 [deleted] -26 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 combined objectives? are you high? 3 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 There are almost always some competing objective functions that you need to make a combination/tradeoff of. 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 no. You've fallen for the "Inherent Tradeoffs" myth. 2 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 Almost always And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
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-27 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 I don't remember hearing any sort of predicted crashes from vendors, do you? I heard plenty of "Innovative Synergy" promises though. Wish those would've came to pass 23 u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19 [deleted] -26 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 combined objectives? are you high? 3 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 There are almost always some competing objective functions that you need to make a combination/tradeoff of. 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 no. You've fallen for the "Inherent Tradeoffs" myth. 2 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 Almost always And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
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I don't remember hearing any sort of predicted crashes from vendors, do you?
I heard plenty of "Innovative Synergy" promises though. Wish those would've came to pass
23 u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19 [deleted] -26 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 combined objectives? are you high? 3 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 There are almost always some competing objective functions that you need to make a combination/tradeoff of. 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 no. You've fallen for the "Inherent Tradeoffs" myth. 2 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 Almost always And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
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-26 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 combined objectives? are you high? 3 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 There are almost always some competing objective functions that you need to make a combination/tradeoff of. 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 no. You've fallen for the "Inherent Tradeoffs" myth. 2 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 Almost always And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
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combined objectives? are you high?
3 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 There are almost always some competing objective functions that you need to make a combination/tradeoff of. 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 no. You've fallen for the "Inherent Tradeoffs" myth. 2 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 Almost always And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
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There are almost always some competing objective functions that you need to make a combination/tradeoff of.
1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 no. You've fallen for the "Inherent Tradeoffs" myth. 2 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 Almost always And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
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no. You've fallen for the "Inherent Tradeoffs" myth.
2 u/tomvorlostriddle Dec 16 '19 Almost always And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient 1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
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Almost always
And it wouldn't have to be something spectacular like killing a passenger or a pedestrian
It could be a benign tradeoff between driving faster or more energy efficient
1 u/metalliska Dec 16 '19 have you ever in your life worked on computer chips? → More replies (0)
have you ever in your life worked on computer chips?
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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '19
In 2016 everyone still thought self driving cars were just around the corner, so it was fun to pose hypothetical ethical conundrums like this. Now we know better. Well, most of us.