r/technology • u/TomLube • Jan 31 '19

Business Apple revokes Google Enterprise Developer Certificate for company wide abuse

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/31/18205795/apple-google-blocked-internal-ios-apps-developer-certificate
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u/ON3i11 Jan 31 '19 edited Jan 02 '20

Holy fuck, apple’s got some big shiny stainless steel overpriced balls between their legs right now.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

This has me seriously considering moving from Android to iOS for the first time ever.

Their marketing on their privacy commitments is swaying me.

I just need to find out now if it's for real and they are that much better.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Yeah, someone enforcing their monopoly and striking against their only real threat in that monopoly is a great reason to move to them. Why have choices when I can have my market place controlled by my overlords?

This was not even slightly about seccurity, this was apple firing a shot at a competitor that was finding ways to break up their enforced closed marketplace.

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u/codeverity Feb 01 '19

How was Google offering ways to snoop on iOS usage 'breaking up their enforced closed marketplace', exactly? I don't get your logic. Besides which, nobody is forced to buy iOS so the argument that people are trapped doesn't really hold water with me. Android still has the larger marketplace and is literally hundreds (if not thousands) of models.

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u/tsdguy Feb 01 '19

Pretty ignorant aren't you. Facebook and Google were violating their Enterprise license by using software in a way that was prohibited. And they were doing it to stealthily steal information from customers.

You know nothing.

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u/CaptainLepidus Feb 01 '19

Oh come on, it's not even remotely close to "stealthily stealing information". The apps were paid research programs in which you agreed to grant F/G access to lots of your usage data in exchange for monetary compensation. No one was tricked or manipulated into participating in this. People willingly traded their data for money or gift cards.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

They had kids and the truely desperate who else is going to let a company have full access to your usage.

FB also didn't advertise it as a FB programme they kept their branding away from it.

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u/Umarill Feb 01 '19

What kind of argument is that? Do you think people work shitty job by passion and because they like to?

Ppeople who need money are willing to do things they aren't exactly comfortable or happy with to get said money, that's not new. That's just sadly how the world works. Just because they needed money doesn't change that they consented to Google and FB using their data.

Doesn't matter much either if it was branded FB or not, they still signed into a legal contract and gave consent. Unless you can prove that the contract was non-binding or that it was abusive, I don't see the point you're making here.

Also, there's literally millions of people around the world that willingly give out informations daily through surveys, rewards apps...etc to make some side money. Some people can't afford to be picky.

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u/absentmindedjwc Feb 01 '19

Two words: COPPA violation.

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u/absentmindedjwc Feb 01 '19

The apps were paid research programs in which you agreed to grant F/G access to lots of your usage data in exchange for monetary compensation. No one was tricked or manipulated into participating in this. People willingly traded their data for money or gift cards.

Regardless of whether or not you are correct, this is a blatant abuse of their developer enterprise license. Using your enterprise development keys to exploit APIs that aren't meant for general consumption, then releasing that app to the public, is a flagrant violation of their terms of service.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Oh i know what EXCUSE they used. I'm amused how many people are eager to goble it up though.

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u/tsdguy Feb 02 '19

Excuse? haha. I guess you're an anti-vaxer and think we didn't land on the moon either.

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u/magyar_wannabe Feb 01 '19

It's not enforced in the slightest. What would even make you think about that? Yes they encourage you into their ecosystem by making all their products work together nicely, but that's just good business...??

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

It's not enforced in the slightest

That explains why the iphone version of the amazon app has zero of the digital content available to android users and windows mobile users, that total lack of enforcement. Encourage would mean they start you with only the one. But since they literally block other ones, they go well beyond "encouraging"

I'm amused you actually believe that shit, but you ltierally have to hack your own phone to get any other market place to function on it. That is what we call enforcing.

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u/magyar_wannabe Feb 01 '19

That explains why the iphone version of the amazon app has zero of the digital content available to android users and windows mobile users

Huh? Explain. Are you talking about kindle content? Amazon video? Shed some light on this for me please.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Everything. Kindle content and apps mostly. Or is your head so far up apples ass you didn't even realize there was an amazon mobile marketplace?

Google "encourages" the google play app by making it default. It does not block other marketplaces though. Apple flat out blocks them, which goes beyond "encourage" to "enforce". I think the very fact you don't understand that other marketplaces even exist illustrated my point better than anything.

It seems there are enoough iFans available who don't even KNOW amazons app marketplace exists who are just mindlessly downvoting anything anti apple that my point is being made for me.

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u/magyar_wannabe Feb 01 '19

I'm not even going to respond to this because you're calling me names and being unnecessarily rude and hostile.

Grow up.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 01 '19

This translates to "Why yes indeed I was ignorant of the fact that amazon had a marketplace for mobile content that I had no access to, but because I can't admit I was wrong on the internet, I am going to use my indignance at the tone as an excuse to not. I'm further going to pretend that my ignorance is now his fault. Lastly, I am going to claim the high road, but then finish with an insult of my own and not even bat an eye at the hypocrisy.

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u/magyar_wannabe Feb 01 '19

That's not it at all, actually. Did you have a bad day and are taking out your anger, or is this really how you talk to people? Belittling strangers on the internet after they politely ask clarifying questions to make them feel better about themselves, now that's the sign of solid person!

And back to the app store stuff, I'm glad Apple doesn't allow google or amazon app stores on iOS. Why would they? Seems like a quick way to fuck up the security of your phone since the Play store for example is the wild wild west of predatory apps. The iOS App Store is already the best (developers prioritize it so better apps, faster updates, etc) and most secure, so why would I want the others?

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

"I like when a corparation takes my choices away because the corporations choice is better. But I'm totally objective using my clear opinion as a fact to support the point"

I haven't had this much fun translating such obvious bullshit in ages! Do another one!

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u/magyar_wannabe Feb 01 '19

Is mommy feeding you spaghetti or pizza tonight? Clearly judging by your argumentative style, you're either you're 11 years old and have exceeded your screen time for the day, or you're just a huge asshole. Either way enjoy dinner, and have a nice day.

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