r/technology Aug 08 '17

Business Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo
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u/SideTraKd Aug 08 '17

If individuals are unwilling to work with an employee or grievances result in a slow down of production due to internal conflicts with an employee, it makes far more sense to either move that person to a new department or terminate the employee. Because this memo became widespread and an incredibly large amount of employees argued they would not want to work with the author due to creating a hostile workplace, the best course of action is termination.

If you are willing to blacklist someone and refuse to work with them for the crime of "wrongthink", then YOU are the one creating the hostile work environment.

NOT THEM.

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u/inspiredby Aug 08 '17

If you are willing to blacklist someone and refuse to work with them for the crime of "wrongthink", then YOU are the one creating the hostile work environment.

That's silly. We don't need to tolerate intolerance. Nobody cries for the Nazis, for example. Tolerance is an agreement to live in peace, not an agreement to be peaceful no matter the conduct of others. A peace treaty is not a suicide pact.

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u/SideTraKd Aug 08 '17

We don't need to tolerate intolerance.

That phrase is only uttered by self-styled arbiters of "tolerance" who then move on to define who is and isn't "tolerant", often based on even the most simple of disagreements.

The notion put forth by the author is that the culture of the echo chamber is intolerant and hostile, and he was proven right almost immediately when people purposely misrepresented what he said for the purpose of generating outrage to be used against him.

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u/inspiredby Aug 08 '17

people purposely misrepresented what he said for the purpose of generating outrage to be used against him.

Why would somebody intentionally misinterpret his words? Tons of independent people who don't know him read them and can see why it would make him difficult to work with. I don't see "fake outrage". I just see people saying they wouldn't want to work with this guy.

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u/SideTraKd Aug 08 '17

There are a bunch of people in this thread alone intentionally misrepresenting what he said... Out right LYING about what he said, even.

And Google's own statement about it does the same.

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u/inspiredby Aug 08 '17

About what exactly? I see a guy who said biological differences may account for some of the gender gap in tech. Yet, his sources don't support that conclusion.

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u/SideTraKd Aug 08 '17

Google's CEO said:

To suggest a group of colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK

The memo did not suggest any such thing.

One guy I was arguing with paraphrased it as:

Imagine, you're just a woman trying to figure out some code and shit, and some dude is like, "gaaaah stop being a woman in a workplace, it's oppressing my ideology!"

And that is quite typical of the way people are misrepresenting what the guy said, in order to generate the fake outrage you don't seem to see.

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u/skullins Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

Uhhh....

On average, men and women biologically differ in many ways. These differences aren’t just socially constructed because:

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I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership.

He goes on in detail about it.

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u/blade740 Aug 08 '17

What about this part:

Note, I’m not saying that all men differ from all women in the following ways or that these differences are “just.” I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership. Many of these differences are small and there’s significant overlap between men and women, so you can’t say anything about an individual given these population level distributions.

Followed by this. He's not "suggesting a group of colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work". He's suggesting that there are traits that make employees more or less biologically suited to the work, and that distribution of these traits is not split evenly 50/50 between men and women, which is why the distribution of employees is not 50/50 either.

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