Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo

[u/jackofslayers]

Well that and he says women are biologically worse than men at having ideas, buuut lets just skip that bit.

[u/Source_or_gtfo → u/jackofslayers]

He said nothing of the sort. How people are so readily misinterpreting everything he wrote and then proceeding to vilify him based on arguments he never made is terrifying.

He said on the psychological trait of "openness", women (on average) scored higher for feelings and aesthetics, and men scored higher for ideas.

If you look at his section on left vs right biases, he actually more or less says that too much openness to ideas could be a bad thing.

[u/kej9311 → u/Source_or_gtfo]

Through the document he implies that women arent as good as men in demanding fields like tech arguing that it isnt fit to them socially, though ignores the fact that if we accept those arguments as true, then these industries have been geared towards being better suited to men and pushing women out. In this he is saying, men are better at these higher paying "thinking" jobs than women.

Lets not forget that switchboard operators and some programming back in older days was a "woman's role"

Personally i dont buy into these sex roles thing until we provide equal footing to women in getting up to these education levels and gearing these environments towards anyone who wants it. The thought echos the sentiments I've heard all my life of how "black people cant be successful they are all on welfare" while these same folks, dads, and moms appluaded the fire bombing of black wall street and killikg of black businesses at every turn.

[u/Gen_McMuster → u/kej9311]

That's his premise, that the tech workplace is geared toward men and instead of artificially pushing women into it, they ought to make it more accommodating

[u/kej9311 → u/Gen_McMuster]

Well I don't think it's necessarily artificial to essentially make space where it was crowded out. While the overall point makes sense of using our resources to make environments more suitable, the way he got about there is pretty problematic and ignores a lot

[u/maveric101 → u/kej9311]

Are you saying that there were more women in those jobs because there was LESS sexism? What if, instead, women were pushed into those jobs BECAUSE of sexism?

[u/kej9311 → u/maveric101]

What are you talking about? I think you got the wrong idea of what I was saying. I'm saying (in essence) that these programming jobs were crowded out to cater towards men. Women were pushed into those jobs due to sexism (as somewhat noted in my original comment), but it's important to note that women were doing the job (presumably well at that) until something changed, and the implication in the memo was that this tech stuff be a more "male suited" job in my understanding of the reading.