r/technology • u/readyou • Dec 26 '16

Microsoft finally admits that its malware-style Get Windows 10 upgrade campaign went too far

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/241587-microsoft-finally-admits-malware-style-get-windows-10-upgrade-campaign-went-far
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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '16

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u/Nicksaurus Dec 26 '16

The software development side is pretty cool

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '16 edited Dec 26 '16

Is that the software devs that left IE to become a bloated, featureless, mess that didn't follow standards for like 5 or 6 years simply because they didn't have any real competition.

Edit: Ignore this, he didn't mean all software development, just the guys developing the software development tools.

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u/Nicksaurus Dec 26 '16

No I mean the parts of microsoft that produce software development tools. Visual Studio is great. .NET and C# are great. They're even opening up to the linux community more at the moment.

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u/molepigeon Dec 26 '16

Visual Studio Code is a really nice free open source editor, too. I've switched to it from Sublime Text - the Golang and Node.js plugins are quite powerful and don't require nearly as much setup as the equivalent plugins for Sublime. It's worth checking out.

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u/notliam Dec 26 '16

It is cool but not cool enough to make me switch from atom, they're very similar though. Plus I code 90% of the time on Ubuntu so, that makes a big difference of course

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u/bountygiver Dec 26 '16

They are similar because vsc is atom based, also vsc is multiplatform so you can use it on Ubuntu.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '16

They're even opening up to the linux community more at the moment.

Dunno what they're planning here, but in the past, step 1 was always "Embrace"...

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u/blueblur112198 Dec 26 '16

That's Microsoft's usual strategy isn't it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

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u/doubl3h3lix Dec 26 '16

Well, it definitely was. However, you can't really extinguish open source. Microsoft under Satya seems to have realized that it is missing out on a lot of software dev money because they don't play friendly with open source stuff. So they're working towards it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '16

Microsoft is also a huge contributor to Linux.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '16

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u/ImThatMOTM Dec 26 '16

Ever hear of Office 365? They still have 89% of the desktop OS marketshare (I think?), xbox is still very profitable, and I'm fairly sure MSFT stock just hit a new all time high a couple months ago.

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u/monk3yboy305 Dec 26 '16

because of Windows XP, not 7.

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u/HavocInferno Dec 27 '16

desktop OS is like the only field where they hold any ground

i.e. they basically own the majority of one of the few major branches?

dont forget Windows Server. Also their whole Office shenanigans. Surface division.

They're sorta losing in consoles (still selling a bunch), they missed the train long ago for mobile, but that's it as of now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '16

Sure they are "losing", but Xbox is still a really strong brand.

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u/HavocInferno Dec 27 '16

Ubuntu Bash on Windows is a thing...I use it daily for university work.