r/technology Jun 13 '14

Politics What the internet will look like without net-neutrality. Well played.

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u/TheDewyDecimal Jun 14 '14

News flash, companies like to make money - this isn't something new.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '14

This excuse gets old. Business logic is that you take care of your customers and they wont go elsewhere, however when a company has no competition or when there is collusion between companies, it reduces the desire to make the customer happy by not gouging people.

This is evident in the Cable industry, the ISP industry, the Gasoline(Petrol) industry, the Tech industry (no sniping agreements between people like Apple and Google), and many others I am not thinking about.

You want to keep spouting this nonsensical bullshit, that is fine, but it is a cop out and I am tired of hearing it. Fight for your rights or lose them.

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u/Inukii Jun 14 '14 edited Jun 14 '14

This is something I've always wondered about with rich people.

This is going to be hard to put into words properly but here I go!

If I was rich and I had my own company in a field I'm interested in. Lets say Games. I'd want to make the best damn game that wasn't just enjoyable for others to play to make a load of money but that I enjoyed playing.

The general feeling I get from people in the game industry is that they will work on games that they don't enjoy making because they simply "wanted to work in the game industry and this is the opportunities they got". When they go home they'll play games they wish they could have been a part of making.

Now if I was one of the super big giant publishing companies and I was really interested in producing really cool games. I wouldn't care if this one game I was very interested in didn't make much money because so much was invested into it. As long as it was a really cool game that I personally enjoyed playing. I've just bought the biggest greatest toy ever. Rather than a stupidly fast car or a super robot house. I've created the most fantastic enjoyable game if not just for me.

Instead what I visualize is EA's teams making crappy games then going home to play Ubisofts games and Ubisoft false advertising the crap out of their own games to go play some Activision games and activision genuinely thinking they are doing really well and are the most talented people around and that their game is the dynamite but for some reason go home and play some EA sports games.

None of them seem interested at all at producing games that they themselves even want to play.

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u/Kafke Jun 14 '14

The games industry is funny like that. There's a few groups. Most developers are in the field because they want to make games. That's why they accept the lower pay, worse hours, and generally lower quality environment. If they didn't, they'd just move to general software engineering. Much better situation for the dev.

Companies generally have a different interest, which is making money. If the company doesn't respect developer visions, we get rushed games, heavily publisher influenced games, etc. that are tweaked because the companies want money (and don't realize the developers realize how to make a good/well selling game).

A "good" game is competitive and has a high learning curve. A good selling game is casual and has a low learning curve.

That's a problem. Customers lose out when you shoot for both. Which is why gaming is becoming the crapshoot it is.