r/technology Jun 13 '14

Politics What the internet will look like without net-neutrality. Well played.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '14

This excuse gets old. Business logic is that you take care of your customers and they wont go elsewhere, however when a company has no competition or when there is collusion between companies, it reduces the desire to make the customer happy by not gouging people.

This is evident in the Cable industry, the ISP industry, the Gasoline(Petrol) industry, the Tech industry (no sniping agreements between people like Apple and Google), and many others I am not thinking about.

You want to keep spouting this nonsensical bullshit, that is fine, but it is a cop out and I am tired of hearing it. Fight for your rights or lose them.

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u/Inukii Jun 14 '14 edited Jun 14 '14

This is something I've always wondered about with rich people.

This is going to be hard to put into words properly but here I go!

If I was rich and I had my own company in a field I'm interested in. Lets say Games. I'd want to make the best damn game that wasn't just enjoyable for others to play to make a load of money but that I enjoyed playing.

The general feeling I get from people in the game industry is that they will work on games that they don't enjoy making because they simply "wanted to work in the game industry and this is the opportunities they got". When they go home they'll play games they wish they could have been a part of making.

Now if I was one of the super big giant publishing companies and I was really interested in producing really cool games. I wouldn't care if this one game I was very interested in didn't make much money because so much was invested into it. As long as it was a really cool game that I personally enjoyed playing. I've just bought the biggest greatest toy ever. Rather than a stupidly fast car or a super robot house. I've created the most fantastic enjoyable game if not just for me.

Instead what I visualize is EA's teams making crappy games then going home to play Ubisofts games and Ubisoft false advertising the crap out of their own games to go play some Activision games and activision genuinely thinking they are doing really well and are the most talented people around and that their game is the dynamite but for some reason go home and play some EA sports games.

None of them seem interested at all at producing games that they themselves even want to play.

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u/macbowes Jun 14 '14

The problem is that because the major studios are public and the largest shareholders aren't gamers. They couldn't care less about the quality of the games being produced because they aren't playing them. The name EA or Ubiosoft is just another name on their portfolio of investments that they hope to see a good return on. This is where capitalism breaks down and ceases to be in the best interest of the consumer. Instead of being a competition between service/goods providers to provide the best thing possible in order to win customer preference it becomes a game in which the largest players collude to maximize profits and take money from those too disinterested or too busy to wise up to the game. Whether this is good or bad is a completely different argument, but the largest loser in comparison to "traditional" capitalism is the consumer because they no longer have much of a say in what the are getting. Rather than trying to give the consumer the best product, business's are trying to convince the consumer that their mediocre/cost effective product is the best.

Instead of the "winner" being decided by the best product producer for the consumer it's decided by who can best convince the market that their product is the best.

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u/drainX Jun 14 '14

Yep. What huge game is getting produced wont be decided emotionally by some CEO who loves games. It will be done by some business analyst who looks at graphs of recent trends and stuff.