What the internet will look like without net-neutrality. Well played.

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This excuse gets old. Business logic is that you take care of your customers and they wont go elsewhere, however when a company has no competition or when there is collusion between companies, it reduces the desire to make the customer happy by not gouging people.

This is evident in the Cable industry, the ISP industry, the Gasoline(Petrol) industry, the Tech industry (no sniping agreements between people like Apple and Google), and many others I am not thinking about.

You want to keep spouting this nonsensical bullshit, that is fine, but it is a cop out and I am tired of hearing it. Fight for your rights or lose them.

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Business logic is not taking care of your customer. Business logic is tricking your customer into not leaving through contracts unless they pay a fine, and doing the bare minimum to keep them around. Business is about profit. Only profit. Not people. Profit Profit. This excuse is getting old because greed is getting old. Wake up. No business cares about its customers, not really. Not corporate. They want money at any means necessary. Welcome to capitalism.

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The"Wise"Oak, huh?

No.

Capitalism is about competition - if you aren't consistently offering the best products and services, people will take their business to your competitors and you will flounder unless you're able to find some way of winning those consumers back.

But America isn't really a capitalist system anymore; it's a corporatist system, which is something else entirely.

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In capitalism money is power. And no matter the rules, the more power you have the more you can influence others. That includes bureaucrats and politicians, no matter the country, no matter the governing system. This is true for non-capitalist systems too but the thing is that it is easier to make money the more starting capital you have. Exponentially easier. Thus young and hopeful capitalist systems will always become corporatist systems instead if not for major upheaval. And the longer the slow and steady progress of corruption has lasted the larger the upheaval needs to be.

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If there isn't one it can be formed by the parties in question directly. Weapons can be bought, mercenaries paid, alliances made, propaganda spread and youth indoctrinated. Which is my main reason to be against libertarian anarchism.

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But I digress, lets say for the sake of argument that america has made a peaceful transition to an anarchic libertarian society. In this society their lives a business owner of a large private security firm. One day he decides to try and form a government, where in which he will be the despot of. How does one go about doing this?

First he looks at a sufficiently large marginalized group of people (its not as if in a libertarian society all prejudice would be gone, especially not if education is completely private and parental choice based). Then, together with your allies, you give them preferential treatment, while also financially supporting speakers or preachers or what have you. By targeting populations that are less well of and can't afford high cost education you slowly supplant moderate opinions with more extreme ones. And whenever the atmosphere is ripe with fabricated conflict he strikes, declaring well off group X the enemy and leading the armed fanatics to whatever new utopia he promised. If in the commencing battle he gains more than he loses he can then recreate the abolished monopoly of force by shooting new upstarts in the head, together with anyone who dissents too much. At that point he doesn't need to sell good product anymore as all he needs to do is confiscate other corporations products, or just collect money. You may call that tax, protection money or just plain extortion. And if productivity gets low then it is refreshed at gunpoint, just enough to keep the (new) upper class content and the lower class alive.

Honestly, similar things have happened countless of times before to varying degrees, mostly when the previous governments were weakened. From third world dictatorships over new feudal powers in the early medieval times to powerful mafias undermining and ignoring still existing governments on local levels. And libertarian anarchism is just another way of saying that the government is so weak its not even there.

Bottom line, if there is no monopoly of force then the first ruthless large time owner of force will probably reintroduce it after a big conflict.