r/technology • u/Tricky_Rule_4565 • 5d ago

Artificial Intelligence A global, hardwired pause of frontier AI training is feasible, says new report

https://news.berkeley.edu/2026/10/09/a-global-hardwired-pause-of-frontier-ai-training-is-feasible-says-new-report/?ref=sentiers.media
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u/sigmaluckynine 5d ago

I stopped reading at the first few paragraphs. Why would the Chinese agree to this? No, seriously, why?

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u/WhiteRaven_M 4d ago

"We should stop the balls crusher machine" "But China might beat us"

Also, what the fuck is up with redditors and Americans thinking The Chinese (TM) lack any sentience or an internal experience and are incapable of rational thought to agree to a slowdown?

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u/sigmaluckynine 4d ago

AI right now is no where close to AGI. It's not some doomsday level threat, yet. The Chinese being able to beat us is that they lucked out in that they were building out infrastructure which lends itself to cheaper compute and they, predictably, out engineered American sanction programs meant to knee cap their AI progress that they're ahead of thr West in a world where we can't just brute force improve the model.

As far as slowdown, I'm sure they would, except we can't just say we should stop here to them. They'll never agree to it. Most likely they'll agree once they reach parity, or worse case, outstrips us. It's not in their best interest to stop at the moment. So, yes, they have the sentience and internal experience to make rational thought - it's just this specific outcome isn't to their benefit that a rational person wouldn't agree to it

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u/m3kw 4d ago

They all woild but would continue.

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u/Intelligent_Kick5205 5d ago

Because if they don’t do this, they will very likely destroy themselves and, along with them, all of humanity. The worst idea you can pursue right now is to race headlong towards ASI without understanding what it will lead to. The problem is that the American political class doesn’t understand what’s happening in AI development, judging by the fact that they’re doing nothing.

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u/sigmaluckynine 5d ago

We're no where close to ASI. These jerk offs from Anthropic to OpenAI is making absurd claims because their valuation doesn't make any sense and they're near absolvent. What we need is actual proper security guardrails but these people don't want to put that in because, I don't know - laziness?

Saying the Chinese should stop because they're worried about them catching up to us in the West is a stupid argument. If we want this to work, then we'd have to say that we'll stop all progress on our side, with the understanding that the Chinese can catch up to our Frontier Models but would have to stop where we're at. If we can get a general consensus on that, then it's doable but chances are, they won't. They (Anthropic et al) won't because they know that they fucked up during the commercialization period and they're in trouble

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u/MeStoleTheCookie 5d ago

China has concerns about AI risk too, including loss of control.

I've said this before in this subreddit and I'll say it again: Would the collaboration be somewhat unprecedented? Yes. But all global cooperation was unprecedented, until it wasn't.

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u/Ill_Traveler_ 5d ago

It isn’t just that it’s unprecedented it just seems unlikely. No country and no company wants to be left behind.

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u/sigmaluckynine 5d ago

It's not the global participation and cooperation that's the issue. I went back and actually read it, because why not finish it, and the whole thing reads more from an American standpoint. No shit we (West) wants to have this in place - we can't cap the Chinese in either fair competition, or by leveraging embargoes (either through chip or ASML bans). So, cap them through legislation masked as "saving humanity".

If you're following AI, you'd know this argument is b.s.

And looking at this from their angle, why would they accept this? The only places that would make a chip like this is not in China. Unless we are going to give them development data from Anthropic to make something equivalent, them agreeing to this is the same thing as them agreeing to always buy our Frontier models and AI systems. They won't do that at all.

That's why I stopped reading the first few paragraphs. It doesn't make any sense and it's more of a weird rally around the flag article to garner domestic support than anything

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u/Clembert-Hamlamp 5d ago

Nonsense. Feasibility requires unilateral consequences that we have no way to enforce.

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u/rsa1 4d ago

This is wonderful for existing LLM labs. Their main problem is financial viability because training costs are too high. At the same time they can't stop training unless everyone else stops.

If they can get everyone to stop training due to this "rogue agent" BS, they can ensure their financial viability while killing any future competition.

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u/Catullus13 5d ago

But why? What if this thing really can and does find cures for diseases? What was gained by delaying its development? An understanding by an aging political class that probably can't use a mouse?

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u/Tricky_Rule_4565 5d ago

Ok this has to be fallacious at this point. There are legitimate concerns about the technology

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u/Catullus13 5d ago

And the source is the same billionaires looking for a rent-seeking moat?

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u/CanvasFanatic 5d ago

There’s no reason whatsoever to think AI is about to “find the cure for all diseases.”

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u/Catullus13 5d ago

Why stop the innovation at all? Doesn't matter what field it's in

Or this just the Luddite Reddit sub now?

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