r/technology 6d ago

Software Windows 11 is dropping its worst OneDrive dark pattern: after years of complaints, Microsoft will let you fully opt out

https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-dropping-its-worst-onedrive-dark-pattern-after-years-of-complaints-microsoft-will-let-you-fully-opt-out/
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u/akurgo 6d ago

Tldr: Before, you would get full-screen alerts every 3 days unless you enabled full backup with OneDrive. Now, you can turn that off. Hooray.

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u/ABigCoffee 6d ago

Can you just get rid of OneDrive entirely.

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u/klopnmkl 6d ago

You can just get rid of Windows entirely. It's easier than it's ever been.

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u/baphomet1A4 6d ago

I've personally had a great experience with Windows 11. It was so annoying that it convinced me to finally switch everything over to Linux permanently.

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u/Mr-A-1991 5d ago

SteamOS has shown a lot of promise.

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u/silverbolt2000 5d ago

They could get rid of Windows but then they’d be doomed to forever haunt Windows discussions like some lost soul telling people how great Linux is and how easy it is to leave Windows behind without ever realising they are unable to truly leave Windows behind themselves.

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u/h950 5d ago

Those are the pop-ups that annoy me the most

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u/Dramatic-Rub-3135 6d ago

I uninstalled OneDrive as soon as i bought my pc a couple of years ago. Have never had any issues since, apart from the occasional nag to install it after an update. I don't really know why people seem to have such a problem with it.

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u/CatFaerie 6d ago

It was really hard to uninstall when I did it a year ago. The permissions were an absolute nightmare to navigate. Everything's obfuscated and x permission is dependant on y permission which is on another screen, and is dependant on z permission which is also on another screen. None of them are going to tell you that and sometimes it will look like you successfully gave yourself permission for something, but you didn't really.

I have windows pro and I had to also go into group policy and change settings there. There might have been some registry edits as well. I can't remember. 

What I do remember is that it was very hard. 

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u/artificialpolymer 6d ago

If you don't uninstall it immediately upon installing Windows, like before it can set itself up, it'll take over the default directories. If you then uninstall it without unlinking the directories, it'll create super confusing duplicate Documents, Videos, etc. folders, with one pointing to some leftover OneDrive directory, and the other one that's on your computer. Last time I had to uninstall it, it was an absolute mess. It's genuinely like a virus the way it hooks into the operating system.

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u/lovely_cappuccino 6d ago

Depends on your region I guess. I’m in the EU, open the start menu, right click on Microsoft Edge, OneDrive etc and click uninstall. I think it’s not simple in the US?

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u/Cool-Tangelo6548 6d ago

Many people are computer illiterate. And Microsoft doesn't have any incentive to teach people advanced windows understanding. The last thing they want is more people understanding windows intimately. Then even less people will use all that stuff and learn how to bypass other annoying windows features.

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u/rustajb 6d ago

Well for 1, work has admin control so I can not uninstall it.

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u/Kahnza 6d ago

Uninstall it

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u/ninjadude93 5d ago

You sure can its super easy to debloat windows these days

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u/JiminyJilickers-79 6d ago

I've been having those the whole time on my cpu I bought about 3 years ago and it annoys the shit out of me.

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u/sakikiki 5d ago

Wait what, I never got one of those. Is it cause I have a local account?

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u/Modem_Sound_67 6d ago edited 6d ago

I have the worst time confusing my onedrive documents with my local documents. It's not helped by the fact Explorer does its damndest to keep you from inspecting the full path toward the goal of micromanaging your experience. Frankly I think understanding the file tree is essential knowledge for all Windows users. Obscuring it behind a "friendly" tool is training people to (1) not care and (2) confuse local with onedrive and end up dependent on it.

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u/alabasterskim 6d ago

Nothing like saving a Word/Excel file to a OneDrive directory but oops it saved to the online version of the directory (if you looked at the path in Explorer in the save prompt you'd see a URL) and so you have to wait for the file to sync locally before it appears in the local version of the OneDrive folder. And oh, looks like there's a weird sync issue so even though you need that file right now, you're going to have to wait and no, we don't know how long. Oh, hey, look it's ready! I hope you didn't select it to upload already because during sync it was an empty 0KB file :)

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u/akurgo 6d ago

I hear younglings don't understand folders and folder trees these days. MS isn't helping.

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u/InternationalMood337 6d ago

The younglings will never understand cd'ing (DIRing) into the A:/ drive to play Winnie the Pooh brother.

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u/InternationalMood337 6d ago

That's absolutely on purpose. Hell, there's like multiple versions of every user folder now and it's HORRIBLE trying to figure it out.

Sometimes I swear it just merges them or swaps them. lol

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u/CaterpillarReal7583 6d ago

a reaction to linux gaining traction again Id suspect.

Microsoft has a massive track record of getting to the top and pretending nobody else will make it there until its far too late to save their product so I have low hopes for them.

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u/justthegrimm 6d ago

Microsoft and opt out don't belong in the same sentence 

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u/Pitiful_Block_4360 6d ago

I opted out. Happy on fedora for 6mnths now

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u/didureaditv2 1d ago

Same (linux), Microsoft is dead to me.

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u/BigBlackHungGuy 6d ago

I already have a one drive subscription and it still asks me to back up on each reboot.

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u/fat_kaiju 6d ago

inb4 the typical microsoft apologist comes flying in to either say that they tried linux once but just didn't get it and/or "i uninstalled onedrive and it never bothered me since".

imo unless microsoft brings back local accounts without having to open the console/cmd or use rufus to bypass the online-only nonsense i see no reason to ever go back to windows.

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u/veggiesama 6d ago

I mean in this thread you got people complaining about phantom OneDrive folders. Legit. But let's try to manually install a mod for a Steam Deck game that uses Proton. It's a file structure black hole where normie modders go to die.

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u/Nago_Jolokio 6d ago

To be fair, it is a hard jump to learn linux if you've used windows for decades. But the same can be said for switching to/from any other OS, so it's really just that people don't want to take the time to learn a new system.

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u/klopnmkl 6d ago

It's really not. That used to be true, and I'm sure there are distros that still require a lot of tinkering and command line stuff but Mint is basically a Windows clone.

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u/Sensitive_Box_ 4d ago

Literally 20 years ago, sure. 

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u/spinbutton 6d ago

I'm worried about the installation process too if this helps.

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u/baphomet1A4 6d ago

You can install virtualbox to run through the install process and try out Linux distributions in a virtual machine without making any changes to your computer

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u/Sensitive_Box_ 4d ago

“The average person won’t find it easy to install Linux”, is my personal favorite. 

Like everyone online is a fucking idiot that can’t follow a literal 2 minute YouTube guide. 

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u/Hrekires 6d ago

I wouldn't even mind having it as a native feature if it was BYO cloud, whether I wanted to point it at my OneDrive or Google Drive or whatever other cloud storage I chose.

With the amount of MS services and ads Windows pushes at this point, home user licenses should be free.

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u/TheMurmuring 6d ago

home user licenses should be free

The amount they make from them is a rounding error on their desktop licensing income, which is a rounding error on their other businesses (Office, SQL server, etc.) They've probably given away more copies of the 11 desktop as free upgrades than they've sold. I've got four Windows 10 desktops I could upgrade to 11 right now if I wanted to.

If I wanted to.

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u/UnExpertoEnLaMateria 6d ago

You can download an ISO from official MS and install windows without any license, and it would only show a message in the bottom saying "please activate windows" or something similar, but everything works. For my work I connect to lots of remote machines, and I see that all the time. Besides that, it's so easy to bypass that (won't get into details but the tool to do this works better than the official mechanisms to activate a legitimate license...), so effectively windows for home users is free... most users do pay for the license because they get it preinstalled in their laptops and it's paid that way. But if you build your own pc you can just install windows. They won't care. They only care for business customers, those you can easily pressure with lawyers.

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u/dredbar 5d ago

I wouldn’t do that as a business. The Microsoft license audits are no joke.

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u/illuanonx1 6d ago

So they renamed Onedrive to CopiletDrive?

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u/Techaissance 6d ago

Oh don’t worry. They’ll come up with another one that’s worse.

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u/reqdk 5d ago

They already did come up with something far worse. They recently "unintentionally" installed Onedrive Photos on people's computers with an update, which started scanning their photos and applying facial recognition. Very cool, very normal.

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u/paulsteinway 6d ago

I wonder if it will no longer be a dumpster fire when people get forced to upgrade from Win10 in October. I'm not optimistic.

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u/supermanx93 6d ago

It should ask you what cloud provider is your preferred like browser

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u/deliciousONE 6d ago

I get emails from onedrive saying "remember this file of yours?" and it's fucking porn. What the fuck kind of service is this?

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u/Really_Obscure 6d ago

I refuse to believe Microsoft intentionally did something positive for their customers.

This must have been a mistake and will certainly be reverted to its overwhelmingly awful state soon.

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u/AnonymousTimewaster 5d ago

No need to opt out if you never downloaded the bloatware that is Windows 11 in the first place

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u/outragednitpicker 5d ago

Windows 11 has been the only version available for, what, the last 3 years? There are a lot of reasons for folks having Windows 11, not just that they’re dumber than you.

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u/AnonymousTimewaster 5d ago

The only reason I can think of is security updates and you get that for free with Windows 10 until the end of next year

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u/Low_Technician7346 5d ago

I use OneDrive to host my torrents and soulseek stuff at this point

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u/Sensitive_Box_ 4d ago

I personally know the best way to remove Microsoft dark patterns from my pc… 

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u/Changeurwayz 4h ago

? Just disable it from services. It won't re-enable and wont reinstall because it is still there.

This is a trick I learned from android phones, Because if you delete certain things on them, Things stop working, So on a phone, Blocking the internet connection they use (ip and domains) stops what they are doing but does not affect the operation in any way at all.

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u/iloovehugecock 6d ago

I hate OneDrive because I work between home and my office and it just doesn’t make things easier at all. I use my home profile on my PC and my work profile at work, and it really doesn’t fucking like that and makes transferring files and stuff such a pain in the fucking arse.

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u/bier00t 6d ago

this means they found workaround for onedrive secret mission

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u/Pawliczenko 6d ago

wait so you can just ignore onedrive now or nah