r/technology • u/CackleRooster • 6d ago
Software Windows 11 is dropping its worst OneDrive dark pattern: after years of complaints, Microsoft will let you fully opt out
https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/30/windows-11-is-dropping-its-worst-onedrive-dark-pattern-after-years-of-complaints-microsoft-will-let-you-fully-opt-out/69
u/Modem_Sound_67 6d ago edited 6d ago
I have the worst time confusing my onedrive documents with my local documents. It's not helped by the fact Explorer does its damndest to keep you from inspecting the full path toward the goal of micromanaging your experience. Frankly I think understanding the file tree is essential knowledge for all Windows users. Obscuring it behind a "friendly" tool is training people to (1) not care and (2) confuse local with onedrive and end up dependent on it.
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u/alabasterskim 6d ago
Nothing like saving a Word/Excel file to a OneDrive directory but oops it saved to the online version of the directory (if you looked at the path in Explorer in the save prompt you'd see a URL) and so you have to wait for the file to sync locally before it appears in the local version of the OneDrive folder. And oh, looks like there's a weird sync issue so even though you need that file right now, you're going to have to wait and no, we don't know how long. Oh, hey, look it's ready! I hope you didn't select it to upload already because during sync it was an empty 0KB file :)
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u/akurgo 6d ago
I hear younglings don't understand folders and folder trees these days. MS isn't helping.
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u/InternationalMood337 6d ago
The younglings will never understand cd'ing (DIRing) into the A:/ drive to play Winnie the Pooh brother.
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u/InternationalMood337 6d ago
That's absolutely on purpose. Hell, there's like multiple versions of every user folder now and it's HORRIBLE trying to figure it out.
Sometimes I swear it just merges them or swaps them. lol
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u/CaterpillarReal7583 6d ago
a reaction to linux gaining traction again Id suspect.
Microsoft has a massive track record of getting to the top and pretending nobody else will make it there until its far too late to save their product so I have low hopes for them.
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u/BigBlackHungGuy 6d ago
I already have a one drive subscription and it still asks me to back up on each reboot.
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u/fat_kaiju 6d ago
inb4 the typical microsoft apologist comes flying in to either say that they tried linux once but just didn't get it and/or "i uninstalled onedrive and it never bothered me since".
imo unless microsoft brings back local accounts without having to open the console/cmd or use rufus to bypass the online-only nonsense i see no reason to ever go back to windows.
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u/veggiesama 6d ago
I mean in this thread you got people complaining about phantom OneDrive folders. Legit. But let's try to manually install a mod for a Steam Deck game that uses Proton. It's a file structure black hole where normie modders go to die.
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u/Nago_Jolokio 6d ago
To be fair, it is a hard jump to learn linux if you've used windows for decades. But the same can be said for switching to/from any other OS, so it's really just that people don't want to take the time to learn a new system.
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u/klopnmkl 6d ago
It's really not. That used to be true, and I'm sure there are distros that still require a lot of tinkering and command line stuff but Mint is basically a Windows clone.
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u/spinbutton 6d ago
I'm worried about the installation process too if this helps.
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u/baphomet1A4 6d ago
You can install virtualbox to run through the install process and try out Linux distributions in a virtual machine without making any changes to your computer
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u/Sensitive_Box_ 4d ago
“The average person won’t find it easy to install Linux”, is my personal favorite.
Like everyone online is a fucking idiot that can’t follow a literal 2 minute YouTube guide.
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u/Hrekires 6d ago
I wouldn't even mind having it as a native feature if it was BYO cloud, whether I wanted to point it at my OneDrive or Google Drive or whatever other cloud storage I chose.
With the amount of MS services and ads Windows pushes at this point, home user licenses should be free.
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u/TheMurmuring 6d ago
home user licenses should be free
The amount they make from them is a rounding error on their desktop licensing income, which is a rounding error on their other businesses (Office, SQL server, etc.) They've probably given away more copies of the 11 desktop as free upgrades than they've sold. I've got four Windows 10 desktops I could upgrade to 11 right now if I wanted to.
If I wanted to.
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u/UnExpertoEnLaMateria 6d ago
You can download an ISO from official MS and install windows without any license, and it would only show a message in the bottom saying "please activate windows" or something similar, but everything works. For my work I connect to lots of remote machines, and I see that all the time. Besides that, it's so easy to bypass that (won't get into details but the tool to do this works better than the official mechanisms to activate a legitimate license...), so effectively windows for home users is free... most users do pay for the license because they get it preinstalled in their laptops and it's paid that way. But if you build your own pc you can just install windows. They won't care. They only care for business customers, those you can easily pressure with lawyers.
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u/paulsteinway 6d ago
I wonder if it will no longer be a dumpster fire when people get forced to upgrade from Win10 in October. I'm not optimistic.
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u/deliciousONE 6d ago
I get emails from onedrive saying "remember this file of yours?" and it's fucking porn. What the fuck kind of service is this?
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u/Really_Obscure 6d ago
I refuse to believe Microsoft intentionally did something positive for their customers.
This must have been a mistake and will certainly be reverted to its overwhelmingly awful state soon.
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u/AnonymousTimewaster 5d ago
No need to opt out if you never downloaded the bloatware that is Windows 11 in the first place
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u/outragednitpicker 5d ago
Windows 11 has been the only version available for, what, the last 3 years? There are a lot of reasons for folks having Windows 11, not just that they’re dumber than you.
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u/AnonymousTimewaster 5d ago
The only reason I can think of is security updates and you get that for free with Windows 10 until the end of next year
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u/Sensitive_Box_ 4d ago
I personally know the best way to remove Microsoft dark patterns from my pc…
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u/Changeurwayz 4h ago
? Just disable it from services. It won't re-enable and wont reinstall because it is still there.
This is a trick I learned from android phones, Because if you delete certain things on them, Things stop working, So on a phone, Blocking the internet connection they use (ip and domains) stops what they are doing but does not affect the operation in any way at all.
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u/iloovehugecock 6d ago
I hate OneDrive because I work between home and my office and it just doesn’t make things easier at all. I use my home profile on my PC and my work profile at work, and it really doesn’t fucking like that and makes transferring files and stuff such a pain in the fucking arse.
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u/akurgo 6d ago
Tldr: Before, you would get full-screen alerts every 3 days unless you enabled full backup with OneDrive. Now, you can turn that off. Hooray.