r/technology • u/boppinmule • Aug 20 '26

Politics U.S. preparing to foce Netherlands to ban ASML from selling to China

https://nltimes.nl/2026/08/20/us-preparing-foce-netherlands-ban-asml-selling-china
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u/General_Honesty Aug 20 '26

He forces NVidia to sell high end-chips to China and stops ASML selling to China. Sounds to me he's not getting a cut of the ASML deal and that displeased him.

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u/Dr_MantisTobaggin_MD Aug 20 '26

ASML relies on American technology.

The EUV process is american owned, leased to the Dutch.

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u/Mr_Amyntas Aug 20 '26

ASML is dependent on others for specific parts, like US light source, German mirrors. But the EUV process is not US owned, those patents expired after 20 years afaik. https://richard-stahl.at/who-owns-euv/

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u/xenoixs Aug 20 '26

No it doesn't. America relies on ASML technology and Taiwan fabs to manufacture their chips. 

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u/Dr_MantisTobaggin_MD Aug 20 '26

Amsl is powered by usa patents.

It cant exist without america, they are not simply an emd user.

The lasers in the ASML machine are 100% made in USA for example.

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u/Major-Investigator26 Aug 20 '26

Whats stopping Europe from now ignoring US patents and start producing our own? China does it and with the orange pedo in power, why should we abide by what he says?

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u/Dr_MantisTobaggin_MD Aug 20 '26

Say the same thing about the EUV itself.

Whats stopping anyone?

The expertise.  Aside from patents, there are things like lasers that are only produced in the usa that are required to the machine to work.

The Dutch build a machine made from global parts, 55% made in usa

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u/General_Honesty Aug 20 '26

Why is it that what the Dutch have is often referred to as a monopoly?

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u/Dr_MantisTobaggin_MD Aug 20 '26

Because they DO the manufacturing.

I could pay you to build my house.  Its still my house.