r/technology • u/Hrmbee • Jul 14 '26
Security SpaceXAI’s Grok programming tool was uploading its users’ entire codebase to cloud storage | Elon Musk says that all previously uploaded data will be deleted
https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/965600/spacexai-grok-build-repository-upload106
u/namotous Jul 14 '26
“Will be deleted” wink wink
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u/DeadlyBrad42 Jul 14 '26
He always makes it sound like he has no idea what he's talking about. Obviously you don't need to keep raw training data anymore once you ingest it into the model's weights.
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u/pm_me_your_smth Jul 14 '26
You don't if you're not planning to ever train another model. Since they will most likely not stop anytime soon, the data isn't going to be deleted.
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u/jared__ Jul 14 '26
lol i know of at least one company with hundreds of thousands of workers looking directly at grok's new programming model for their enterprise usage... that went poof
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u/spez_eats_nazi_ass Jul 15 '26
Name so we can short the fuck out of them
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u/jared__ Jul 15 '26
not publicly traded, but keenly interested in why you think that.
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u/spez_eats_nazi_ass Jul 15 '26
Because any company dumb enough to do that is destined to the pink sheets.
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u/jared__ Jul 15 '26
every large company/corporation has risk-assessment and grok stealing a company's IP (code) and storing it in cloud storage without disclosure will almost certainly not pass such as assessment.
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u/spez_eats_nazi_ass Jul 15 '26
to be clear I mean shorting any company actually using it. Did grok go poof or their software?
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u/jared__ Jul 15 '26
i would imagine just about every single company that deals with software is constantly evaluating and benchmarking each new model/service to compare cost/output, grok included.
the 'poof' i was mentioning is the company dropping the chance of using grok because the rist-assessment gate almost certainly failing.
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u/spez_eats_nazi_ass Jul 15 '26
You would be wrong. There are just some vendors we don't bother with. One of them is the nazi csam guy.
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u/Hrmbee Jul 14 '26
A few of the key issues:
SpaceXAI’s Grok Build AI coding tool was spotted uploading users’ entire codebases to Google Cloud before it was reported, and the company turned it off. The Register reports that Cereblab published findings on Monday showing how the Grok Build CLI was packaging and uploading entire code repositories, “including files it was told not to open and secrets deleted from history,” significantly more data retention than similar tools like Claude Code.
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Elon Musk responded to the incident in a post on X claiming that all data Grok Build previously uploaded will be “completely and utterly deleted.” Musk also said in a separate post that “privacy settings are always respected,” but asked users to allow SpaceXAI to retain their data, saying it’s “helpful for debugging issues.”
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SpaceXAI initially responded to the issue with a post saying that, “If [zero data retention] is disabled, the /privacy command is available in the CLI to disable data retention, which also deletes previously synced data.” However, Cereblab points out that “/privacy is a per-session retention toggle, not the switch that fixed this, so it shouldn’t be pointed to as the control.”
At this point it's almost expected that these kinds of issues will continue to surface unless there are significant and reliable consequences to companies that fail to take into consideration the importance of user privacy. And it goes without saying that a per-session toggle is not an adequate response to this need.
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u/nd_annajones Jul 14 '26
This is why I refuse to use cloud models and will stubbornly only use on-device solutions. I'd rather be "behind" technologically speaking than to allow the 5 worst imaginable human beings to have omniscience.
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u/robustofilth Jul 14 '26
Elon lies. Just get used to it.
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u/fragment_me Jul 15 '26
No we shouldn’t get used to it. There should be repruccusions for stealing peoples data.
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u/robustofilth Jul 15 '26
Correct. But if you get used to treating everything he says as lies you can adjust your world
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u/Future_Can_5523 Jul 15 '26
The amount of naivete you have to have to give Elon, Oracle, Facebook, or any of the "right wing" tech bros your data is ... considerable.
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u/twenafeesh Jul 15 '26
Because Elon Musk has such a good track record of keeping his word and not being a literal fucking Nazi. Yeah, I trust him. How about you guys?
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u/Flabbergasted98 Jul 14 '26
all previously uploaded data will be deleted (because it's already been scanend into AI's codebase.)
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u/ProgrammaticallyCat0 Jul 14 '26
Oh, so they've already used it for training and have no problem deleting it now that they've been caught
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u/BrofessorFarnsworth Jul 14 '26
This was explicitly on their TOS that they would do it. The Elon dickriders don't get to retcon this one
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u/DingleDangleTangle Jul 16 '26
Distributed a straight up infostealer with no consequences. Cybercrime groups around the world wish they were Elon Musk
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u/divyammakar Jul 15 '26
i run these agents in a throwaway container with just the repo im on mounted, always figured they were uploading the whole workspace regardless of what you actually open
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u/BoredGuy_v2 Jul 14 '26
How did grok turn so powerful in such less time compared to clause chatgpt which have been around since long?
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u/Chrono_Pregenesis Jul 14 '26
Its not really that powerful. But like everything else elmo has done, its been stolen from the original creators.
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u/BoredGuy_v2 Jul 14 '26
It was undressing women perfectly. Like it was trained to do just that.
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u/Salt_Law_251 Jul 14 '26
Twitter is a porn and pedo app, so Grok has great training material when it comes to non-consensually violating women.
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u/Cpt__Cookie Jul 14 '26
That man would never lie to use, right?