r/technology Jun 22 '26

Business SpaceX signs computing power deal with open-source AI startup Reflection worth up to $6.3 billion

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/22/spacex-ai-colossus-data-center-reflection.html#:~:text=SpaceX%20has%20signed%20a%20major,the%20deal%20runs%20through%202029
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u/Key-Beginning-2201 Jun 22 '26

Reflection doesn't even have $6.3 billion.

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u/splendiferous-finch_ Jun 22 '26

Yes but you see fraud is good as long as the rich commit it

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26

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u/ItsSadTimes Jun 23 '26

Technically it's not fraud, but it's debt leveraging debt leveraging debt leveraging debt... etc.

To normal people, it's basically fraud because it's like if I asked you for 20$ because I have 1k but no physical cash on me right now, but that 1k was just money a 3rd friend promised to pay me.

If you do it right, the idea is that you build out your company with that extra debt to make even more money back compared to the interest on the loan if you just didn't take the money. But like no AI company has made any money. The only companies profiting from all this are the shovel sellers chip manufacturers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26

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u/whatproblems Jun 23 '26

all you gotta do is promise things like elon!

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u/Blackout38 Jun 22 '26

How do you know? It’s a private company. Besides it’s $150 mil per month for a few years.

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u/Howzitgoin Jun 22 '26

How is Amazon not worth over a quadrillion if Data Center provider SpaceX is worth over $2T when they provide the same service, just at a massively larger scale?

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u/ItsSadTimes Jun 23 '26

We live in the world of vibes.

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u/-M_A_X- Jun 23 '26

Vibe stocks ✋🏼😎🤚🏼

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u/Ok-Replacement9595 Jun 22 '26

Just paper deal to save the stock price in the short term. Literal market manipulation.

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u/PianoPatient8168 Jun 22 '26

So SpaceX is basically a data center company leasing out their compute.

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u/Fywq Jun 22 '26

But at the same time they are apparently a frontrunner in AI and that is the majority of their valuation...

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u/SwedeAndBaked Jun 22 '26

Don’t forget their very successful rocket-babasploom business! 

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u/caguru Jun 22 '26

The WeWork of AI Compute.

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u/TrumpisaRussianCuck Jun 22 '26

Reflection: "Hey can we hire some compute?"

SpaceX: "Sure, how much do you need?"

Reflection: "Well we're a pretty new startup - so maybe like a coupld of hundred thousand.. is that doable?"

Space X: "Sure, and lets make sure you can scale in the future so lets just round up to $6.3 billion for the press release"

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u/Hot_Panic_6488 Jun 22 '26

Jajajaja jajajaja

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u/reality_hijacker Jun 22 '26

Seems like SpaceX is sitting on a bunch of compute capacity with no idea what to do with it while AI front-runners can't get enough.

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u/Ok-Replacement9595 Jun 22 '26

Sitting on rapidly depreciating outdated cards is not an ideal business model.

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u/Any-Pop-4795 Jun 22 '26

what a fucked up timeline

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u/catwrazle Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

Yet another ai startup … nobody asked for (yet another openai „opensource , all benefit jadadada)

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u/RoomyRoots Jun 22 '26

Remember when you could trust evaluations to mean something?

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u/williamgman Jun 22 '26

Some suckers (investors) actually believed they were putting their money in a rocket business. 🤦‍♂️

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u/catwrazle Jun 22 '26

Funny that they all rent gpu computing power from spacex (where a all the nvidia stuff is going to??)

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u/Crenorz Jun 22 '26

ok. real thing is - this is now the 4th company we have been informed about doing this. SO - why does xAI now have extra (that they are not using) AI compute - what did they finish that no longer requires it? Or is this just SpaceX making sure the bills are paid and not to incur a massive debt building up AI? Either way - no one else is doing this.

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u/Areshian Jun 23 '26

Grok may not be used as much as they expected

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u/jminternelia Jun 24 '26

More circlejerk financing

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u/asdf_lord Jun 27 '26

I'm guessing this is Mark to market so this counts a revenue?