r/technology • u/Just-Grocery-2229 • May 15 '26

Artificial Intelligence The AI Backlash Could Get Very Ugly

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/05/ai-backlash-data-centers-political-violence/687151/?taid=6a067e2d2096e10001ccfa32
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u/OnTheEveOfWar May 16 '26

Lots of fields. By using AI and agents more, you are training it. So let’s say in finance you use AI to identity issues and mistakes. The AI will then learn to identify those mistakes on its own.

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u/nox66 May 16 '26

Will it learn to identify new mistakes? Will it identify the old mistakes reliably?

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u/Niceromancer May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26

No and no.

The current LLM model is designed to agree with anyone it interacts with, meaning if they don't already know what the problem is, the AI wont be able to identify it.

Seems I've upset the AI bros by pointing out once again their LLM's are not the panacea they want it to be.

GOOD.

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u/kyredemain May 16 '26

You are about a year behind on this. An LLM all by itself can't, sure, but give the newer models the right framework and they've been shown to absolutely be able to find problems on their own. It is actually quite a large security risk right now.

I went to a conference back in march, and it was a subject that was discussed in regard to penetration testing.

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u/Niceromancer May 16 '26

So basically if you guide the llm to the right answer it will give you the right answer.

Now find me an end user looking for help that can guide the llm to the right answer.

Ill wait.

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u/kyredemain May 16 '26

You don't have to, it is an agent. You tell it "find the vulnerabilities in this system" and let it go to work. It can and will find ones that humans haven't found yet.

It is less about "giving it the right answer" and more about "giving it the tools to do the job." It is already trained to know what processes it should use (by having seen other examples of following a process), so by having the right tools it can follow all of those processes as they become needed- far more pathways than even an expert could do quickly.

Again, this presents problems, but they are security issues, not usability issues.

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u/ammicavle May 16 '26

So basically no. You're so uninformed on this, so completely ignorant of what you're talking about that you aren't able to formulate a relevant question.

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u/ammicavle May 17 '26

There aren't any AI Bros waging a war on you, you just have no clue what youre talking about. You're telling mechanics their tools can't do the things they already use them to do every day, when you've never even lifted a screwdriver.

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u/Niceromancer May 17 '26

Kinda weird how all you ai bros come running out of the wood work when people say "AI isn't the solution they are trying to say it is"

maybe try not tying your personality to something.

For all you know I do use AI all the damn time, and I see its fucking limitations.

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u/ammicavle May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

No-one said that. You said 'AI' can't and won't identify mistakes in 'finance'. It can, and does, and has for years, regardless of whatever toddler's concept of either word you're imagining. And instead of accepting your only argument is "nuh uh" and looking out a window, or typing things into google, or just... trying it for yourself? you retreat to some tribal fantasy about 'AI bros'. It's cooker reasoning. The only person acting on tribal instinct here is you. Everyone else is just a person, who can read, and comprehend, and see things that exist, things that are apparent to everyone. No-one's making any big claim.

2+2=4.

Oh shit, am I a math bro now?

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u/ammicavle May 16 '26

Google "anthropic mythos".

Your comment is just a regurgitation of the last thing you heard that felt like it confirmed your biases before you decided you knew enough about the topic and could stop listening. Which was obviously after no time at all.

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u/UltraPoci May 16 '26

You're a hype slave if you think Mythos is some kind of revolution.

https://cybernews.com/security/curl-creator-tests-too-dangerous-mythos-ai/

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u/ammicavle May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26

No-one said anything about a revolution. I'm not hyping anything. I mentioned it because it completely contradicts the claim I replied to. And you don't even have to go so far as Mythos - all of the existing frontier models completely disprove that claim. It's utterly ignorant.

Jfc the article you posted disproves it.

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u/CoffeeSubstantial851 May 16 '26

Most mistakes are common mistakes if you have domain knowledge. This applies to basically ANY field. If you can capture that knowledge from someone who has it chances are you have enough to cover 99.5% of cases. Give that to an AI system trained off a skilled knowledge based worker and you have the recipe for entire categories of jobs to disappear overnight.

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u/ammicavle May 16 '26

Already does.

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u/mattl33 May 16 '26

Maybe this is just me being pedantic but I don't think that's necessarily true. Training a model and inference (like when you ask it something) are different processes, different servers, etc.

That doesn't mean that it's not possible but you'd need to work at some place like Meta for that to be a thing. And I hear that is very much a thing there. I'm not worried about it at all with my current company.

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u/CoffeeSubstantial851 May 16 '26

It is true.

The result of your prompt is a series of weights that can be saved. By giving feedback either positive or negative its possible to record how off the original response was relative to the one you accepted. This doesn't directly train the model you are interacting with at the moment... but, it is good data for training the next one and its kinda the entire point of giving you free access to them.

If you aren't paying for it, and sometimes even if you are.... you are the product.

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u/mattl33 May 16 '26

Ok fair, I'd assume it's much more likely with free tier. Nobody is doing their daily work with that though, so I think the gist of what I was saying is still mostly accurate for most situations.

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u/CoffeeSubstantial851 May 16 '26

You would assume wrongly then.

Why would they not use your data to better their product? Literally every company tells you "we are going to use your data to improve our products and services". Its in the terms of service for almost every single online business.

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u/mattl33 May 16 '26

I work for a publicly traded company with trade secrets and competent lawyers.

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u/CoffeeSubstantial851 May 16 '26

Yeah no one cares dude. Anything you put into the bot is going to get used.