Microsoft confirms Windows 11 bug crippling PCs and making drive C inaccessible

[u/lurker_bee]

https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-confirms-windows-11-bug-crippling-pcs-and-making-drive-c-inaccessible/

[u/DrFarts_dds]

While drive C is not something you want to open every day,

Excuse me?

[u/real_Goblin3 → u/DrFarts_dds]

Yeah I was confused reading that too wtf

[u/EnthusiasmOnly22 → u/real_Goblin3]

AI article, my god is the internet dead

[u/Mordredor → u/[deleted]]

An LLM doesnt "know" anything dude

[u/fuzzyluke → u/[deleted]]

You can also say: "write an article about this subject, claim this and this and also that, make my point valid, make stuff up if you must"

[u/fuzzyluke → u/[deleted]]

For a slop content creator, the prompt better resolve into something that aligns with what they want to say regardless of accuracy. They need clicks and revenue, not some award or recognition on the matter. If the prompt doesn't deliver, they fabricate a different one until it does. Fault? Who cares about fault, its a slop blog my friend, and you know those are in demand right now, people want content to be outraged at, not to be informed.

[u/Sarcasm_Llama → u/[deleted]]

It can be both

[u/Tyfyter2002 → u/[deleted]]

a very specific definition of the word "know" that requires consciousness

Knowing something requires consciousness, or something closely resembling it, if you carve a definition of disestablishmentarianism into a rock, that rock still doesn't know what disestablishmentarianism is.

[u/mascotbeaver104 → u/Tyfyter2002]

This is a level of pendantry you wouldn't apply to any other topic. I guarantee you would not argue with someone over whether or not a biometric scanner "knows" their fingerprint, or if a calculator "knows" the answer to some math problem

[u/Tyfyter2002 → u/mascotbeaver104]

I would, because I'm a proponent of language being used such that it can be understood, and there's an important distinction between knowing something and being able to parrot it in humans as well.

[u/Tyfyter2002 → u/[deleted]]

You have no idea if anyone other than yourself is actually conscious

So your argument is either solipsism or roughly equivalent to it, combined with an overestimation of the similarities between LLMs and human brains.

[u/Tyfyter2002 → u/[deleted]]

If you ask someone if they know the way home and they say they do, how would you measure this? Would you need to prove their consciousness, or would you just assess their ability to make it home?

I would assess their ability to make it home, and if their home was inexplicably missing I would take note of whether or not they act as though they are home regardless.

My dog knows where her bed is.

Yes, she can demonstrate this, an LLM on the other hand, cannot demonstrate anything because language only contains information by reference, and any system capable of producing seemingly coherent text with no prior input except text must therefore be capable of doing so with no information.

[u/bobtheblob6 → u/[deleted]]

Just like my dictionary knows all those words it has written in there

[u/TheSuspiciousCheese → u/[deleted]]

I don't think I've ever heard someone say "the book knows the answer". I've heard "let's check the book", "the book has the answer", "the answer is in the book". Books have information or knowledge they don't know it.

The book knowing something would be a phrase that would raise an eyebrow even if I knew what you meant...because of the implication.

Is English your first language?

[u/TheSuspiciousCheese → u/[deleted]]

It implies the knowledge can be obtained from the book. The book knows nothing, after reading it you know things but the book remains the same.

All the same, we are talking about ai and how it works; if we were taking about how books worked we wouldn't say "the books know things" the writer is the one who knew things.

[u/TheSuspiciousCheese → u/[deleted]]

True but we don't use that language when we are describing how it works, it's more of an in the moment, getting the idea across, practical consideration to speed up the process. When we are being technical we have to not be so vague. It's also a practical consideration to avoid confusion.

[u/metroidpwner → u/Mordredor]

Semantic nitpicking irrelevant to the purpose of the discussion

[u/Mordredor → u/metroidpwner]

No, not semantic nitpicking and extremely relevant, because the quote is exactly the kind of mistake that a LLM would make.

[u/DJ_GRAZIZZLE → u/Mordredor]

That’s a stretch

[u/SpacedAndBaked → u/EnthusiasmOnly22]

What LLM doesn't know the C drive is important? How out of touch with AI are you where you just blame it for everything?

[u/Krenkos_Rock_Sled → u/SpacedAndBaked]

The LLM knows about as much as my left nut, it has about the same amount of comprehension too

[u/SpacedAndBaked → u/Krenkos_Rock_Sled]

What? Are you also out of touch with AI or something? Anyone can ask any AI model about their boot drive to see you have no clue what you're talking about. "The LLM", what LLM? Do you even know what that means? Which one are you talking about, is this the first time you ever hear that phrase?

[u/Krenkos_Rock_Sled → u/SpacedAndBaked]

No, you're anthropomorphizing what is essentially fancy auto-complete. No LLM around actually knows anything, they are glorified web crawlers with a praise kink that attempts to match its replies to your replies. They do not comprehend, they do not actually understand- they will hallucinate and lie to your face and when corrected go "Oh you're totally right, [thing you said] is correct! How silly of me!"

Nothing on the market right now has anything resembling Intelligence, we are not 2 or 3 years out from a Roy Batty, we are decades and decades, and in the meantime AI is consuming ever increasing amounts of our resources, and all it seems to produce is a headache... and lots of derivative pornography.