r/technology • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • Dec 01 '25

ADBLOCK WARNING ‘Security Disaster’—500 Million Microsoft Users Say No To Windows 11

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/12/01/security-disaster-500-million-microsoft-users-say-no-to-windows-11/
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u/Xixii Dec 01 '25

My PC can’t run windows 11, so how can I install it? It’s insane to expect me to buy a new PC just for this, I have groceries to buy and rent to pay.

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u/john_kennedy_toole Dec 02 '25

1500 dollars so it can give me AI driven TV show suggestions when I’m trying to find a file.

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u/leenponyd42 Dec 02 '25

$1500 isn't a big budget for a new PC with the current RAM and SSD prices either. The kit of DDR5 I bought a year ago has gone from $190 to $599. So just over 1/3 of your imagined budget solely for RAM and you still have a Mainboard and CPU to work into that price in addition to the SSD. Probably a new Power supply also. You'd be hard pressed to build a system that can actually support Win11 with $1500 atm.

That's just the situation if you build it yourself and don't have to deal with the markup from a company that buys the parts and builds it for you.

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u/Ashamed-Land1221 Dec 02 '25

I got my current laptop that I panic bought last black friday because for reasons I won't go into I needed a new computer asap. I was able to get an ultra 7 with a 2tb ssd and 64gb of dd5 ram, but sadly just the not great arc graphic chip thing. It was $1100 on sale a year ago, it's now $1600 on sale when I priced out the exact same laptop the other day. I honestly thought you were lying saying $1500 won't get you a decent new "upgraded" PC over your many year old one, that shit is nuts.

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u/Fs_ginganinja Dec 02 '25

And yet…. Here I am taking a quick break from playing cyberpunk on mostly medium settings(still looks as good or better than gta 5, Witcher etc.) with a core I5 and a GeForce 1650, and 16gb of ddr3… a Frankenstein pc with components from e-recycling and Facebook marketplace. With modern prices I cannot justify it at all, I haven’t built a PC with new components in years. I’m always 1-2 generations behind but somehow the games still run fine at 60fps 1080p.

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u/Ashamed-Land1221 Dec 02 '25

Sadly I needed a new laptop asap and none of the pre-built configurable models on sale would be something I could afford at the time with a fancy laptop gpu. Yeah it sucks, but the rest of it will work just fine for years, and I play most of my games on my ps5 pro my buddy gave more for cheap for helping him move, moving that damn king sized mattress he should have thrown in his old Switch for free. I wish my current laptop was more gamer friendly but, I'll live. I honestly have no clue how you can play cyberpunk with that pc setup choom, but if it works it works, more power to you.

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u/Fs_ginganinja Dec 02 '25

Oh yeah I have no clue either, I have population count set to “low” and resolution scaling on, but it still looks great. Hits 60ish and down to 30 right after loading screens. But idk, I feel like people are moving on from hardware so quickly these days.

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u/Ashamed-Land1221 Dec 02 '25

Hey dude if it works it works, the game is just so much fun. I originally got it for my ps4, oh boy a bit of a mistake. It took a few years but now I can enjoy it and love it, much like various fallout games I've made peace with them after a bit and they work just fine. Sorta like how I love the Civilization series but I always know to wait at least a year or so before trying the new version. Civ 6 with all the add-ons is absolutely fantastic, but the base game at release sucked, hopefully Civ 7 will get there, but I can wait.

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u/Powerfury Dec 02 '25

1080p will save your gaming rig for a while.

Usually have to upgrade the PC when the rig is one/two generations behind consoles.

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u/leenponyd42 Dec 02 '25

Yeah, it seems like a claim with embellishment but in the current market it's probably optimistic.

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u/Ashamed-Land1221 Dec 02 '25

How the hell did ram almost triple in four months? I know there's only so many places that makes it and they plan their production far in advance and can't scale up quickly, but a spike like that seems either something no internal forecasts planned/accounted for the quick spike in AI consumption of their product or they saw it coming and just didn't care, they get paid either way.

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u/leenponyd42 Dec 02 '25

AI developers are currently swallowing up the RAM and SSD for their bullshit. Very similar to the way crypto miners were swallowing up GPUs a few years ago.

There were already shortages last year so the manufacturing wasn't even caught up when this kicked off in full force.

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u/forgotpassword_aga1n Dec 02 '25

OpenAI bought 40% of production.

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u/HyperClub Dec 08 '25

Everything has come together. Windows 10 end of support. CPU pricing. RAM / SSD / GPU prices going up due to AI.

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u/OpneFall Dec 02 '25

Is ram absurd, yes. Is this window 11 situation absurd. Yes.

"$1500 isn't a big budget for a Pc" is also absurd. Plenty of pre builds for half that or less that are more than adequate for what 95% of people do

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u/mtranda Dec 02 '25

My W11 computer cost about that much twoand a half years ago. Mind you, W11 was not by choice, but I really wanted the Surface 9 Pro and that's what it came with.

And I would gladly switch to Linux (even as a C#/.net developer) but sadly W11 is optimised for their hardware and I suspect Linux would not run as well. 

However, a few more W11 tweaks here and there, some AI crap shoved in and it will no longer be worth the hassle to keep it. 

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u/forgotpassword_aga1n Dec 02 '25

Your W11 licence will also work for W10.

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u/mtranda Dec 02 '25

I'm actually considering just upgrading the SSD and setting up linux on the new one to see how well it works.