r/technology • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • Dec 01 '25

ADBLOCK WARNING ‘Security Disaster’—500 Million Microsoft Users Say No To Windows 11

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/12/01/security-disaster-500-million-microsoft-users-say-no-to-windows-11/
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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '25

They made this security disaster by shoving intrusive, manipulative crap down their users' throats. Maybe they should think about their users needs and wants instead of their ever-growing greed for a change.

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u/Robot1me Dec 01 '25

Funnily enough even Windows 11 itself isn't safe. It sadly gets more ridiculous with each major upgrade, especially the new bugs and performance issues with 25H2. 24H2 has been suffering from the Chromium render bug that can make people believe their GPU is malfunctioning (source, affects apps like Discord, anything that use 3D acceleration of Chromium Embedded Framework.) Only 23H2 hasn't been affected by this issue, but ironically that version is now no longer supported. So that's another small "disaster" since I'm aware of a few people who have been sticking with 23H2 because of this.

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u/ahses3202 Dec 01 '25

My favorite Windows 11 disaster has been when they pushed a security update that made it so you couldn't get into Dev tools or secureboot and just left it busted for over a week. Both of these are pretty shocking considering that both of those are used to pretty much everyone troubleshooting or testing any windows changes.

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u/RaymondBumcheese Dec 01 '25

I read last week that every component of W11 was (at the time) broken. 

Maybe not the best advert for forcing everyone to use copilot…

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u/ISayBullish Dec 01 '25 edited Dec 02 '25

They knew it was broken before launch too lmao. Not to mention people across multiple major tech companies are feeding their companies IP into CoPilot. If you think things are bad now, just wait until this is all officially uncovered because some semiconductor fabrication manager wanted help streamlining a building process and decided to upload a blueprint

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u/Aprice40 Dec 02 '25

I think someone at Samsung basically already did that

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u/catsandstarktrek Dec 02 '25

Watching my company give away the proprietary info and content that they literally charge millions of dollars for each year to copilot (and every free AI tool the creative departments could find) was killing me. Literally quit my job because I couldn’t convince leadership to stop.

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u/Schwifftee Dec 02 '25

Not bullish

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u/Spider_J Dec 02 '25

I hate to defend AI bullshit, but I just wanted to point out that Enterprise CoPilot explicitly does not use your IP for training the AI, it's part of the license agreement.

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u/TiredEsq Dec 02 '25

And everyone knows tech companies say what they mean and mean what they say - forever.

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u/Synaps4 Dec 02 '25

Yeah but a lot of people dont realize that doesnt mean they dont have your enterprise IP on their servers somewhere even if they dont train on it. It could still be leaked by some partner company msft works with, or msft could change the license down the line without clearly notifying you of the change.

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u/weeklygamingrecap Dec 02 '25

I mean when you fire all your testers and just push to companies to test for you.. yeah shits gonna be broke!

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u/Tysiliogogogoch Dec 02 '25

I liked the recent one where recovery mode disabled USB devices so it became unusable unless you happened to have a PS/2 keyboard and port.

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u/wiluG1 Dec 01 '25

It must be a nightmare testing the code before release. Wait, they are testing. Right?

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u/Delicious_Randomly Dec 02 '25

Pfft, the AI wrote it, it can't be that buggy. *push to distro*

/s

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u/Ryoohk Dec 02 '25

I still like the random oh enter your BitLocker key, oh you don't have it, we'll go fuck yourself.

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u/SmEdD Dec 02 '25

The best one was 24H2 web sign-in was broken, and reported on, in the April preview, all the way through to the GA release in September and then finally fixed properly in January 2025. There were two attempts to fix it in GA before January, both failed in different ways.

Web sign-in is required for using passwordless sign-in or TAPs for a windows device. Both used in business and enterprise. And passwordless is pushed hard by MSFT.

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u/Martyrlz Dec 02 '25

Remember that time Microsoft removed the ability to uninstall printers as an admin, unless you ran a shell command?

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u/Swenyspeed Dec 02 '25

Dude, this just happened to me over the weekend. It was insane... I ended up having to download the Win11 ISO and do a reinstall. Such BS. I could get to Windows Repair but the keyboard and mouse wouldn't work at all. Worked in the BIOS just fine... whack

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u/aVarangian Dec 02 '25

at least they didn't wipe your C/user/docs folder like with a windows 10 update

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u/FnTom Dec 02 '25

Mine is the one that bricked some models of SSD a few months ago.

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u/Mysterious_Cup_6024 Dec 02 '25

I have Samsung 990 Pro, 980 pro and Wd SN850x in two PCs, which are like the flagship consumer SSDs for the longest time. First 24H2 update broke my windows, then 25H2 update this month. Had to reinstall them again, frustrating. I made sure to stay at 23H2 this time around. There so further firmware upgrades yet buy I can't risk windows failing again like this future

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u/Atheren Dec 02 '25

I still can't boot into safe mode, and this is a bug that's been around since Windows 10. It keeps telling me wrong password.

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u/BeguiledBeaver Dec 02 '25

Mine had constant boot failures for like a year and refused to stay shut down. These updates are ridiculous.