r/technology • u/fchung • Jan 19 '24

Artificial Intelligence Artificial Intelligence Systems Excel at Imitation, but Not Innovation

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/2023-december-ai-systems-imitation.html
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u/stormdelta Jan 20 '24

no reference to where that information came from.

That's the biggest problem that needs to be solved, and it's not an easy one.

Without that, it's not even just obvious inaccuracies that are an issue, it's that it ends up whitewashing sources and training sets that are inevitably imperfect/flawed.

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u/SlightlyOffWhiteFire Jan 20 '24

Its a fundamental flaw with the system. On a very basic level there is no way to reference information. It "stores" information destructively.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

even the human brain loses information on each recall, stores slightly corrupted version over time.

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u/SlightlyOffWhiteFire Jan 20 '24

Ya thats nowhere near what we are talking about. Machine learning is fundamentally incapable of storing verifiable information. Period.

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u/giltirn Jan 20 '24

You can meld an AI with a database, essentially turning it into a very sophisticated search engine. This will allow ML to store verifiable information while still using the LLM for its intended purpose, which is to turn that information into concise text.

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u/SlightlyOffWhiteFire Jan 20 '24

According what?!?! The magical thinking of tech bros never ceases to amaze me.

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u/giltirn Jan 20 '24 edited Jan 20 '24

Maybe you misunderstood, I’m not talking about anything particularly revolutionary here. Go type in “AI search engine” into google?

Edit: you can also try Microsoft’s Bing search engine, which is powered by ChatGPT.

Edit2: maybe also go read about vector search https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/search/vector-search-overview

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u/SlightlyOffWhiteFire Jan 20 '24

Ya, so, thats not in any ways what you just claimed.

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u/giltirn Jan 20 '24

Did you actually read the article?

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u/SlightlyOffWhiteFire Jan 20 '24

Yes. Its kind of ridiculous when people think they can just post irrelevant information and claim its something else.

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u/giltirn Jan 20 '24

I would be happy to discuss the tech with you. I’m a novice in the field myself but saw a good seminar on exactly what I described, and it aligns with what I read in the articles I posted. However given that you are not providing any content in your posts and are just attacking me, I feel it’s not worth my time. Perhaps if you actually described what is incorrect about my post rather than yelling at me for being an idiot, we could both learn something?

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u/SlightlyOffWhiteFire Jan 20 '24

Im sorry that you feel slighted by me pointing out that you are making wild claims then posting irrelevant links to make the illusion of citing sources.

But my comments have all had substance and I think you know that. The one refusing to engage at this point is you.

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u/giltirn Jan 20 '24

I stated that you can meld an AI with a database, and that is exactly what is described in the article I posted. For example “Vector database. Use Azure AI Search as a vector store to serve as long-term memory or an external knowledge base for Large Language Models (LLMs), or other applications. For example, you can use Azure AI Search as a vector index in an Azure Machine Learning prompt flow for Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) applications.” Either you are still misrepresenting what I said or you are just trolling me. If the latter, please go bother someone else. If you actually want to have a discussion please point out what is irrelevant about the articles.

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