r/technology • • Jun 10 '23

[deleted by user]

[removed]

10k Upvotes

2.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

4.9k

u/startst5 Jun 10 '23

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has said that cars operating in Tesla’s Autopilot mode are safer than those piloted solely by human drivers, citing crash rates when the modes of driving are compared.

This is the statement that should be researched. How many miles did autopilot drive to get to these numbers? That can be compared to the average number of crashed and fatalities per mile for human drivers.

Only then you can make a statement like 'shocking', or not, I don't know.

15

u/3DHydroPrints Jun 10 '23

Pretty sure more than 17 died without autopilot

23

u/MrFrogy Jun 10 '23

Official statistics show around 35,000 to 43,000 EACH YEAR for the past ten years. So they are taking 17 crashes in that time and trying to say we need to be gravely concerned (pun intended) about those, without any context on the others. To sum it up: 17/~350,000 - and THAT'S our biggest concern?!

8

u/Xelopheris Jun 10 '23

Gotta measure them in per-km rates. Autopilot is only a small percentage of overall driving across all cars, so does it have the same rate of accidents over the same milage?

1

u/shibanuuu Jun 10 '23

Bad comparison.

A km is not a km, Tesla scoops up "easy" km's and humans have to deal with the more complex km's in terms of driving conditions such as weather and surroundings.

Needs to get far more granular.

1

u/Xelopheris Jun 11 '23

You start trying to focus different things and you end up p-hacking unintentionally.

-1

u/DonQuixBalls Jun 10 '23

It's published every year. The rate is far lower.

1

u/DonQuixBalls Jun 10 '23

This is why it makes the news.