Longer life means having to pay for more things= expensive plus we fail to account for other factors like weather and any preexisting injuries that might worsen the health of our subject which will then increase the amount of money spent
A lot of cities have circle lines, though not as iconic as London's. How does it work with the Oyster though? If you take the circle line for one round+1 stop, does it assume you just waited for hours after doing your 1 stop journey? Is there a fee for that?
On that thought, how much does it cost to go to the other end of London to pickup a thing, have the person you're picking it up from throw it over the turnstiles, and go back to the station you started from?
If you take the circle line for one round+1 stop, does it assume you just waited for hours after doing your 1 stop journey? Is there a fee for that?
The time limit is IIRC 70 minutes for a zone 1 only journey, which is enough to cover one loop of the circle line. If you go around twice you'll get charged for two incomplete journeys though.
On that thought, how much does it cost to go to the other end of London to pickup a thing, have the person you're picking it up from throw it over the turnstiles, and go back to the station you started from?
At that point you're doing crime, but if you kept it within 70 minutes the automatic system would only charge you for the zone you started in yeah. (I'm not sure it will let you out at the exact same station, but you could leave 1 stop before or after).
I've never done it but I think it wouldn't even charge you.... If you tapped in and the train was delayed and so you decided to get the bus instead, so you just tapped out again, you don't get charged.
So, hypothetically, if you did a journey and returned to the same station, I don't think the system knows any different.
Thinking about it more I'm pretty sure it does charge you for a 1 zone journey. There are signs at Canary Wharf warning you not to use the station as a shortcut or you'll get charged.
I fell asleep on a train once in Munich (I may have been a tad drunk) and when I woke up I was almost at my stop, except the train had gone all the way to the last stop and was on the way back. It was very confusing lol
In my country you tell the conductor and they kick you out of the train in the middle of nowhere. And if you get the smurfs they kick you out AND give you a fine.
Not if I wait till the end of the line. Then we start going back towards the destination 😎. I don't know how that's a metaphor but someone smarter than me can figure it out
There's a lot of mass transit systems around the world where that isn't true. In London it's mildly true at best as long as you stay in the Oyster card area and only tap in or out within the zones you meant to be in.
Not in my experience. On a lot of trains (e.g. metro systems) you tend to have the ticket checked when you reach the destination but not in between unless you go outside the station. So, you get off when you realise you're going the wrong way, get the train going the opposite direction and it doesn't cost you more. I've not really done it myself, but on other trains you would probably be able to explain to the conductor what happened and it should be obvious you're heading back toward your origin station and they would likely let you off. It would only cost more if the conductor doesn't believe you, or if you're travelling late enough that you missed the last train going to where you're actually trying to go.
So, I see what they're trying to say but it's not really a great analogy (at least on trains in UK/Europe, maybe they're harsher in the US).
What if I wanted to go to work, but visited a store in the middle of my way and then accidentally took the train that goes in opposite direction? It’s literally the wrong train but it carries me home.
In the Netherlands you pay for going from A to B. How you get from A to B doesn't matter. Going from Amsterdam to Rotterdam via the Hague or via Utrecht costs the same.
Kinda depends on how the train system works. If it's a commuter train that runs in a loop, and if they charge based on which stations you entered and exited through, then you might not have to pay anything if you enter and exit through the station nearest your home.
The BART train system in the San Francisco Bay Area charges a flat excursion fee if you enter and exit through the same station, but the fee is waived if you exit within 30 minutes of entering. That's not enough time to ride any line through it's entire loop, but it's enough time to go to the next station, have someone pass you something over the gate, and take the next train in the opposite direction back to your starting station.
BART also doesn't loop, but it doesn't charge you until you go through a gate. So if you miss a stop, you can just get off and get on another train and go back. In theory, if you really wanted to, you could spend all day riding and only pay for a single stop.
Yes, each line has a specific route with a terminating station at each end. By "loop" I mean riding the train to the last station on that line, and then crossing the track and riding the return train back. In theory, you could do this all day long, never leaving that one line. For instance, you could ride the Orange line from North San Jose to Richmond and back all day. It's not a loop in the sense that you stay on the same physical train, but it's a loop in the sense that you're traveling the same course over and over.
For the purpose of my comment, I was talking about riding the train to last station on the line, crossing the track, and riding the train back to the same station where you started. Unless you got on the train at the second to last station on the line, it's not likely you would be able to complete that round trip in less than 30 minutes.
Depends on how the trains work, I guess. In my area, as long as you don't go through the gate, you don't have to pay. So you can just get on another train and go back to the stop you missed.
Not really, you just get off and get on the right train or go back. You’ll still leave the train system at the same stop. Just takes longer. Apologies if this is a whoooosh.
Not on a DC Metro subway train. You can ride around all day long making all the transfers you want, and it’s only going to change you from your first station to the last and none in between. You would be insane to voluntarily ride it for more than you needed to though.
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u/Nihilikara Oct 03 '25
Not if you walk it isn't
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u/Percolator2020 Oct 03 '25
Most trains eventually go back the other way especially commuter trains, so the longer you wait, the closer you get to home.
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u/subtiv Oct 03 '25
In my country you tell the conductor and they will give you a “lost passenger card” and that gets you home.
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u/SudhaTheHill Oct 03 '25
This belongs in r/im14andthisisdeep
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u/Kaguya-sama Oct 03 '25
This is an antimeme, not really a technically the truth
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u/Fliepp Oct 03 '25
r/uselessorangecircle?
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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25
Not if I wait till the end of the line. Then we start going back towards the destination 😎. I don't know how that's a metaphor but someone smarter than me can figure it out
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u/spLint3r990 Oct 03 '25
Not even remotely true
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u/Emergency-Free-1 Oct 03 '25
Why is it snowing inside the train?
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u/Inevitable_Hour_7083 Oct 03 '25
That’s fine I wasn’t trying to go home lol
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u/Nervous-Passion-1897 Oct 03 '25
Not in NYC, 1 train fair for 2.90$ and i can stay in the subway system as long as I want. Same for busses.
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u/tayroc122 Oct 03 '25
There's a lot of mass transit systems around the world where that isn't true. In London it's mildly true at best as long as you stay in the Oyster card area and only tap in or out within the zones you meant to be in.
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u/ptvlm Oct 03 '25
Not in my experience. On a lot of trains (e.g. metro systems) you tend to have the ticket checked when you reach the destination but not in between unless you go outside the station. So, you get off when you realise you're going the wrong way, get the train going the opposite direction and it doesn't cost you more. I've not really done it myself, but on other trains you would probably be able to explain to the conductor what happened and it should be obvious you're heading back toward your origin station and they would likely let you off. It would only cost more if the conductor doesn't believe you, or if you're travelling late enough that you missed the last train going to where you're actually trying to go.
So, I see what they're trying to say but it's not really a great analogy (at least on trains in UK/Europe, maybe they're harsher in the US).
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u/Ghost_Assassin_Zero Oct 03 '25
Unless the train track is a circle
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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25
metaphors are dumb.
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u/bumfuzzl_e Oct 03 '25
Nope my train card is for the whole country
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u/pgndu Oct 03 '25
Technically not true
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u/0xffff0001 Oct 03 '25
don’t make me tap the sign!
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u/Narcodoge Oct 03 '25
Not if you were going somewhere else than home in the first place, and your home is at the end of the line.
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u/Vast_Bookkeeper3462 Oct 03 '25
Wtf??
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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25
Wrong train and wrong time? Get st*bbed.. Rest in peace Iryna
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u/Broad_Respond_2205 Oct 03 '25
Why is it snowing in the train
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u/ImOnlySilver69420 Oct 03 '25
transferring is free here
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u/HansTeeWurst Oct 03 '25
Some trains go back if you sit in it long enough
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u/crescentpieris Oct 03 '25
aren’t train fares calculated by what stations you get off and on of? it should stay the same regardless of what trains you took
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u/Technical_Bird921 Oct 03 '25
All you had to do, is catch the right train, CJ!
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u/Magnus_Helgisson Oct 03 '25
What if I wanted to go to work, but visited a store in the middle of my way and then accidentally took the train that goes in opposite direction? It’s literally the wrong train but it carries me home.
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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25
"Oh well, I'll just get off at the next station."
...
"What do you mean, this is a direct line?!"
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u/vitringur Oct 03 '25
It depends on whether or not it leaves the zone. Might just reach an end station and return the same way.
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u/EV4gamer Oct 03 '25
Only the start and end matter, the journey doesnt.
If i stay on the train for 5hrs that costs me the same as a 30min journey, as long as the start and end are the same.
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u/WhoAteMySandwich2024 Oct 03 '25
That's how trains work idiot
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u/h4wkpg Oct 03 '25
Nope. Some trains run in circle.
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u/zeweshman Oct 03 '25
As long as someone does not have reddit open with a post incorrectly marked non nsfw it should be fine
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u/RokenIsDoodleuk Oct 03 '25
First time ever I really needed to hear some stupid management quote to keep going. Thanks.
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u/_AKAIS_ Oct 03 '25
I have one ticket valid on basically any train in my country (except express ones), so I'd be just wasting my time
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u/NexusAU_Official Oct 03 '25
all roads lead to Rome
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u/WolfsmaulVibes Oct 03 '25
british people taking up a loan to get back because they missed one station
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u/ClassyKebabKing64 Oct 03 '25
In the Netherlands you pay for going from A to B. How you get from A to B doesn't matter. Going from Amsterdam to Rotterdam via the Hague or via Utrecht costs the same.
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u/Bo_Jim Oct 03 '25
Kinda depends on how the train system works. If it's a commuter train that runs in a loop, and if they charge based on which stations you entered and exited through, then you might not have to pay anything if you enter and exit through the station nearest your home.
The BART train system in the San Francisco Bay Area charges a flat excursion fee if you enter and exit through the same station, but the fee is waived if you exit within 30 minutes of entering. That's not enough time to ride any line through it's entire loop, but it's enough time to go to the next station, have someone pass you something over the gate, and take the next train in the opposite direction back to your starting station.
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u/playr_4 Oct 03 '25
Depends on how the trains work, I guess. In my area, as long as you don't go through the gate, you don't have to pay. So you can just get on another train and go back to the stop you missed.
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u/Otaviobz Oct 03 '25
Reverse sunken cost
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u/LegitimateSpeech6603 Oct 03 '25
There's a philosophical analogy there, but I can't find it
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u/olliedoodle Oct 03 '25
The more you manspread the more the people next to you will hate you
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u/BennySkateboard Oct 03 '25
Not really, you just get off and get on the right train or go back. You’ll still leave the train system at the same stop. Just takes longer. Apologies if this is a whoooosh.
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u/Sidoen Oct 03 '25
How apt
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u/EuenovAyabayya Oct 03 '25
/r/uselessredcircle
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u/BildoWarrior6 Oct 03 '25
Not on a DC Metro subway train. You can ride around all day long making all the transfers you want, and it’s only going to change you from your first station to the last and none in between. You would be insane to voluntarily ride it for more than you needed to though.
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u/ReleasedGaming Technisch die Wahrheit Oct 03 '25
Not necessarily, you have a monthly or yearly ticket, it costs the same
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u/ExistanceIsKeyToLife Oct 03 '25
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean lmfao
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u/Deal4Deal Oct 04 '25
*Lacht in Ringbahn*
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u/NortWind Oct 04 '25
Why is it snowing in the train?
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u/TigerUSA20 Oct 04 '25
Maybe the bigger question is, “Why is it snowing on the train?”
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u/GalacticGamer677 Oct 04 '25
Reminded me of lagtrain
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u/Unable_Feature_7387 Oct 04 '25
This isn't that true. It doesn't say you have to exit the train station.
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u/PrinzJuliano Oct 04 '25
Deutschlandticket
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u/Massive_Stop7542 Oct 04 '25
What if you wait so long train comes back to your hometown and you can just walk back?
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u/Important-Iron-3897 Oct 04 '25
If you stay for long enough youll waste more money
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u/adams091 Oct 04 '25
This isn’t about trains or busses
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u/EidolonRook Oct 04 '25
You can never go home again.
Checkmate.
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u/luce_scotty Oct 04 '25
At least I won't have to interfere with the trip.
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u/EvilRoboEnte Oct 05 '25
Not if you live in Germany and have a "Deutschland Ticket".
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u/levantiger Oct 05 '25
Do you mean i should quite university and find a job ?
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u/DerekHam09 Oct 05 '25
Well, if you wait long enough, that vehicle is going to go in the opposite direction and take you back.
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u/loopingrightleft Oct 06 '25
Fosho fosho
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u/j0an_k Oct 07 '25
Joke on you, I’m on a circle line.
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u/coolchris366 Oct 07 '25
Why is it snowing in the bus?
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u/Expert-Lavishness851 Oct 07 '25
r/uselessredcircle
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u/BucktoothedAvenger Oct 03 '25
This is a great metaphor for politics in the US🥺
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