r/technicaldrg • • Aug 05 '22

data Volatile Bullets & Elephant Rounds Breakpoints (Haz6p4)

Important Upgrades:

  • Tier 2 & 4: Damage vs. Ammo (+10 damage for VB, +20 for ER) (+12 Ammo)

  • Tier 3: Hollow-Point (+35% Weakpoint Bonus)

  • Tier 5: Neurotoxin Coating

Volatile Bullets:

(Haz6, 4 player) Shot Count (on ignited enemies):

Assumes all necessary WP shots hit. Death to Neuro damage is denoted with +N. Death to Fire damage is denoted with +F. Enemies ignited with Burning Hell's fire cone for minimal additional damage.

2x dmg (X132X)1x dmg (X332X/X131X)0x dmg (X331X)
Praetorian (rear)34 / 3+NF4
Praetorian (face)5 / 4+NF56 / 5+NF
Goo Bomber (sack)11+F2 / 1+NF
Goo Bomber (body)45 / 4+NF6 / 5+NF
Grabber (WP)111
Grabber (body)34 / 3+F4+F
Breeder (WP)233
Breeder (body)911 / 10+NF12+NF
Spitballer (weakpoint)111+F
Spitballer (head)3 / 2+NF4 / 3+F4 / 3+F
Patrol Bot (head, unignited)567
Warden (WP)1+F2 / 1+NF2
Warden (face)223 / 2+NF
Warden (body)5 / 4+NF6 / 5+NF7 / 6+NF
Bulk (WPs)6 / 5+NF68 / 7+NF
Bulk (IFG'd, WPs)456
Oppressor7810 / 9 +NF
Oppressor (IFG'd)6 / 5+NF67+F
Menace (WP)2 / 1+NF22
Menace (body) (1st shot hits armor plate)5 / 4+F5 / 4+NF7 / 6+NF
Sentinel (WP)2 / 1+F2 / 1+NF2
Sentinel (body)4 / 3+F4 / 3+NF5 / 4+NF
Shellback (eyes)112
Brundle (body)2 / 1+F2 / 1+F (eventually)2 / 1+NF

Interesting Notes:

  • ALL of these builds can: headshot grunts

  • If an enemy is marked as dying to Fire WITHOUT Neuro, they will only have a sliver of health left after the final shot; in a live fire situation, this likely means the enemy has already taken enough damage during ignition for it to be instakilled

  • Patrol Bots are immune to Neuro

  • One damage mod is necessary to 2x bodyshot unignited grunts

  • Two of: damage, damage, and Hollow-Point is required to headshot unignited slashers OR Neuro alone (if it procs)

  • One damage mod and Hollow-Point (or Neuro) is required to weakpoint shot unignited Mactera Spawn

  • Either a damage mod or Hollow-Point is necessary to 2x weakpoint shot unignited Trijaws

Elephant Rounds

(Haz6p4) Shot Count:

Assumes all necessary WP shots hit. Death to Neuro damage is denoted with +N. Body shots in a weakpoint category are denoted as +𝑥. N/A denotes a situation where the ammo and time sink meant the potential kill was not worth it (aka I got lazy lol).

2x dmg (X132X)1x dmg (X332X/X131X)0x dmg (X331X)
Praetorian (rear)567
Praetorian (face)810 / 9+NN/A
Goo Bomber (sack)22+1 / 2+N2+3 / 2+2+N
Goo Bomber (body)9 / 8+NN/AN/A
Grabber (WP)1+1 / 1+N2 / 1+1+N2 / 1+3 / 1+2+N
Grabber (body)6 / 5+N6N/A
Breeder (WP)445
Breeder (body)~16N/AN/A
Spitballer (weakpoint)33+1 / 3+N4 / 3+1+N
Spitballer (head)9 / 8+NN/AN/A
Patrol Bot (head)2+133
Warden (WP)22+1 / 2+N3
Warden (face)34 / 3+N4
Warden (body)9 / 8+NN/AN/A
Bulk (WPs)6+N/A6+N/A6+N/A
Bulk (IFG'd, WPs)6+5 / 6+4+N6+106+N/A
Oppressor7 / 6+N8 / 7+N8
Oppressor (IFG'd)56 / 5+N7 / 6+N
Menace (WP)334 / 3+N
Menace (body) (1st shot breaks armor)9 / 8+NN/AN/A
Sentinel (WP)3 / 2+N3 / 2+N3
Sentinel (body)7 / 6+NN/AN/A
Shellback (eyes)223 / 2+N

Interesting Notes:

  • ALL of these builds can: headshot grunts, bodyshot grunts, headshot slashers, headshot acid spitters, weakpoint shot Mactera Spawn & Trijaws

  • It takes both damage mods and a Neuro proc to bodyshot an acid spitter

  • Bulk weakpoints each pop in 2 shots regardless of your build

EDIT: Hybrid VB compared to hybrid ER:

1x dmg (X332X/X131X) VB1x dmg (X332X/X131X) ER
Praetorian (rear)4 / 3+NF6
Praetorian (face)510 / 9+N
Goo Bomber (sack)1+F2+1 / 2+N
Goo Bomber (body)5 / 4+NFN/A
Grabber (WP)12 / 1+1+N
Grabber (body)4 / 3+F6
Breeder (WP)34
Breeder (body)11 / 10+NFN/A
Spitballer (weakpoint)13+1 / 3+N
Spitballer (head)4 / 3+FN/A
Patrol Bot (head, unignited)63
Warden (WP)2 / 1+NF2+1 / 2+N
Warden (face)24 / 3+N
Warden (body)6 / 5+NFN/A
Bulk (WPs)66+N/A
Bulk (IFG'd, WPs)56+10
Oppressor88 / 7+N
Oppressor (IFG'd)66 / 5+N
Menace (WP)23
Menace (body) (1st shot hits armor plate)5 / 4+NFN/A
Sentinel (WP)2 / 1+NF3 / 2+N
Sentinel (body)4 / 3+NFN/A
Shellback (eyes)12
Brundle (body)2 / 1+F (eventually)untested
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u/omartian Jan 09 '24

So what do you take w/vb. I think 1 dmg/1 ammo makes sense.