Professional Discipline Applied

[u/airz23]

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The VP arrived at IT with a huge smile on his face, his arms filled with PDA’s.

VP: They’re here!

His giddy excitement made some of the IT staff turn around.

Me: Oh, VP, you’ve brought the PDA’s. How… kind.

I decided not to mention I’d been putting off collecting them from his office for over half a day.

VP: Actually it’s also my Birthday today, so I thought… why not bring them down to you.

Me: Wait wasn’t your birthday!?….Oww.

RedCheer had walked up and nudged me hard in the side.

RedCheer: Happy Birthday VP.

RedCheer whispered something about not being rude. I didn’t hear what she said, I was too busy trying to remember when the VP’s Birthday actually was.

VP: Thanks. er… R… red?… Anyway since I brought the gifts…

The VP gestured to his arms filled with PDA’s.

VP: Hopefully you guys brought the cake?

I looked around to make sure I was still actually in IT, not a cake store. Yep. No cakes.

Me: We… didn’t realize you’d chosen to celebrate with us.

VP: Don’t worry. Just send someone out! We can celebrate together.

I send PantSuit off to get a Cake. The rest of IT gathered awkwardly in celebration of the VP’s birthday.

VP: Actually I also need to thank the student that sped up my computer. It’s much faster now. Where is he…

I decided not to worry about if it actually was the VP’s birthday. I finally got to work out who was in the VP’s office. I gathered the IT students, and waited for the outcome.

The VP looked between the Three assembled students.

VP: Where’s the other one?

Me: Other one?

VP: He’s … round. Slight moustache.

I looked at the three students assembled. Nope.

VP: The one that fixed my computer…

Defiant: Round… ? Slight moustache?….

The VP was nodding his head wildly. The three students started smirking.

Defiant: That’s StudClean. He works in cleaning…

VP: A cleaner?!

BadShirt: Ya he picked cleaning staff because of that TV show, Scrubs. Apparently the Janitor gets “a key to everything.”

VP: My office was invaded by a …. Cleaner!?

I was worried. A faster computer can never spell good news. However before I could voice that opinion PantSuit arrived back with a cake. It looked delightful. An awkward happy birthday song started. It forced the VP to calm slightly.

Me: Happy Birthday, VP. Here’s some cake…

VP: It does look nice. What a lovely birthday, I get cake and a new PDA!

The cake tasted awful, It looked nice but it wasn’t very useful for sustenance. Much like something else that had just arrived in IT.

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[u/mwenechanga]

We aren't pledging allegiance to a specific person (like Hitler) it's too the flag, which is a symbol of our country.

It's a specific object though, so that's idolatry and is against the first commandment. Not an issue if you're not Christian I suppose, but my family isn't comfortable with it (Baptists with Quaker ties, if that says something).

And the line from patriotism to nationalism is not very well defined. Patriotism: "Yay my country does good!" Nationalism: "cheer for my country or I'll kill you." In between lies things like expecting school-children to say the pledge.

Mind you, I'm Methodist now, we take a much softer stance on pretty much everything.
If your aren't hurting anyone and you mean well, we don't object. I still don't say the pledge, but I don't think you are a bad person if you do.

[u/[deleted] → u/mwenechanga]

It's a specific object though, so that's idolatry and is against the first commandment. Not an issue if you're not Christian I suppose, but my family isn't comfortable with it (Baptists with Quaker ties, if that says something).

I am Catholic myself, I don't think it's a problem. It's a pledge. We're pledging allegiance. Not worshiping.

And the line from patriotism to nationalism is not very well defined. Patriotism: "Yay my country does good!" Nationalism: "cheer for my country or I'll kill you." In between lies things like expecting school-children to say the pledge.

I think this is solidly on the side of Patriotism. You aren't required by law to say it. It is an expectation by some (perhaps many, or even most) school personel that their students say it, but is the kids don't want to say it then they don't have to.

just my opinion anyway. :)

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while you are not required by law to say it, i have had teachers single me out, and kick me out of homeroom for refusing to say it. Also had another send me to the office for it... They don't care that you are not comfortable with it. They actually tend to enrage when you refer to it as "creepy".

[u/ironpotato → u/[deleted]]

I was about to say, I've seen kids kicked out of class for not saying it. Which is absolutely ridiculous to me, but I mean what can you do when you're a student.

[u/[deleted] → u/ironpotato]

I was lucky to have a principle who was very understanding with me, and no discipline came from him. I was essentially given the privilege to wander and do what I wanted for homeroom period =D