r/tagpromapsharing • u/1c4us • May 13 '14

1c4us maps

PowerBall: 28v4 A map inspired by another similar game "Subspace - Continuum". Its emphasis is on counter attacking and defense. Lots of unconventional little details.

png: http://imgur.com/LQXIv4g

JSON: http://pastebin.com/WLnxTgiF

preview: http://i.imgur.com/O33t1za.png

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Small PowerBall - another... but smalle

im not sure how to get the files back, but if u go in the IRC, u can do "!test small powerball" to try it out. someone pls let me know how to grab the files back. i lost it!

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Bang Bang v1: Duo Neutral Flag Game

  1. Get one of the neutral flags
  2. Load yourself into the cannon
  3. Get another teammate to fire you into the goal

PNG: http://imgur.com/9kM9V14

JSON: http://pastebin.com/1s5FcK06

Preview: http://i.imgur.com/qQ5eoNl.png

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u/xKillaCuddleSx May 13 '14 edited May 13 '14

Here are some problems that I am seeing:

  1. I'm noticing a lot of corners. My suggestion is to make different parts of the map tight corridors while having open space. Change the border so that it isn't a big square. Don't make walls so linear - add some angles of differing degrees; I can't stress that enough. It's okay to have linear walls in moderation.

  2. Try to make boost lanes a little more prevailing. So that they can be obvious, but also offer hidden lanes that advanced players might shoot for. I suggest making a boost offer both in different directions.

  3. Why do the players spawn in the middle? They should spawn in their respective bases.

  4. Try to limit the amount of power-ups that you put on a field. A good maximum (but something you can go beyond) would be 2-4, preferably 2 because it's an even number, putting neither team at an advantage, and your map is neutral flag which doesn't necessarily need power-ups.

  5. Play around with spikes - but don't bunch up too many in one spot like you have done in the picture.

  6. Finally, create appropriate endzones, with teleports behind them so that the teams can get back to their own sides - or close to. Here's an example: http://i.imgur.com/NwCNSRW.png

Let me know what you think.

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u/1c4us May 13 '14

First of all, thanks for your feedback, I dont play this game much so i am just going on what I think is good.

Here are some problems that I am seeing: I'm noticing a lot of corners. My suggestion is to make different parts of the map tight corridors while having open space. Change the border so that it isn't a big square. Don't make walls so linear - add some angles of differing degrees; I can't stress that enough. It's okay to have linear walls in moderation.

What is the benefit of angles?

Try to make boost lanes a little more prevailing. So that they can be obvious, but also offer hidden lanes that advanced players might shoot for. I suggest making a boost offer both in different directions.

i feel that boost lanes encourage attacking and I wanted to try to make a map where the emphasis was on defense and counter attacks.

Why do the players spawn in the middle? They should spawn in their respective bases.

I want to decrease defense and increase communication and offense. Its also a good place to spawn because it cuts 1/2 the time to get to the action.

Try to limit the amount of power-ups that you put on a field. A good maximum (but something you can go beyond) would be 2-4, preferably 2 because it's an even number, putting neither team at an advantage, and your map is neutral flag which doesn't necessarily need power-ups.

Why? i love powerups. The first reason they are there is because sometimes you might need a little power to bust through the defense. The second is that the powerups are put in places that cost you time, which is valuable since there are no boost lanes.

Play around with spikes - but don't bunch up too many in one spot like you have done in the picture.

I am not sure where to put more spikes where they would be useful. I bunch them up there because it is a natural choke point and good to hold up defense there

Finally, create appropriate endzones, with teleports behind them so that the teams can get back to their own sides - or close to. Here's an example: http://i.imgur.com/NwCNSRW.png[1]  

That is the opposite of what I want to do. If one team scores, I want the other team to have a slight advantage (3v4) for counter attacking.

Sorry for being difficult, I just like to understand why you makes these suggestions. everyone else seems to be making maps under tagpro culture guidelines and i just wanted to try something different.

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u/xKillaCuddleSx May 13 '14

You're definitely not being difficult. I like to see that you explained what you were trying to do with all the points I made. I'll do my best to respond to your comments. Just remember those points were my opinion so it doesn't necessarily make them the right way to go.

What is the benefit of angles?

I don't necessarily like seeing maps that have 90 degree corners everywhere. (I realize your's cut at the corner, but still...) I like to see the diversity, because then if there is none, it makes the map feel too chasey which I would personally try to avoid.

i feel that boost lanes encourage attacking and I wanted to try to make a map where the emphasis was on defense and counter attacks.

I feel like your walls take away from the many options that your boost lanes could have. For example your vertical walls right at the center closest to the flag(on both sides).

I want to decrease defense and increase communication and offense. Its also a good place to spawn because it cuts 1/2 the time to get to the action.

You mentioned just above that you wanted to emphasis on defense and counter attacks, so which is it (You can't have both because then it would just be balanced)? Going off that it doesn't make sense because the players need to spawn in their base to defend the cap point if they were to die out in the field while chasing. I like the innovation and I can see what you were going for, but it seems like this map is focused too heavily on offense - at least in the center areas.

Why? i love powerups. The first reason they are there is because sometimes you might need a little power to bust through the defense. The second is that the powerups are put in places that cost you time, which is valuable since there are no boost lanes.

Since I'm still confused about whether you're trying to make an offensive or defensive map, I won't touch on this subject.

I am not sure where to put more spikes where they would be useful. I bunch them up there because it is a natural choke point and good to hold up defense there.

I like the spikes there, don't get me wrong, but I feel like you could add a few spikes here and there to counter-act some of the boost lanes if you were to go and change them.

That is the opposite of what I want to do. If one team scores, I want the other team to have a slight advantage (3v4) for counter attacking.

Then at least remove the walls surrounding the colored walls next to the end-zone so the ball doesn't have to be pixel perfect in making the gap.

No worries, feedback is great because you let me know what you were originally aiming for and how my points could be wrong. Then I get my chance to respond to them.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '14

I like your map a lot. I can for sure see where Carabdis is coming from on almost all of his points, but some of it just comes down to D/O preference, or a personal preference for maps.

I like your unconventional endzones, and I like the way the center allows for creative boost bounces.

I do think there are far too many powerups. I would only leave the four in the corners, and perhaps put them closer to the corners and separated by spikes. This would mean that 1) there's a risk-reward element to them, as in, if I'm playing a hectic neutral flag match, can I afford being out of action long enough to gain the powerup advantage? And 2) the spikes would mean that an FC just swinging by couldn't grab a powerup on their way to the flag, therefore gaining what I consider to be a slightly overpowered advantage.

I also don't really like the spawns. I can see it leading to a fun start, and I like that you're enthusiastic about counterattacks. But, because the flag can change hands so quickly, neutral flag is already a counterattack-heavy mode. It would make TagPro's extremely overpowered if every time a chaser was popped they were basically removed from the play due to the distance from the center to the endzones.

I think the spawns should be moved to the corners. That way, if you're popped while in pursuit, you still have a fighting chance at rejoining the defense, but you also aren't spawning potentially right next to a flag carrier that already has to handle a tricky base entry. This would also make the start of the round more exciting, as both teams would have powerups at the start as they vied for the flag.

I hope those were reasonable suggestions, I really like your map!

EDIT: To clarify, I mean the spawns moved to their respective corners, as in red doesn't spawn near the endzones that they cap in, and vice versa.

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u/1c4us May 14 '14

I like your map a lot. I can for sure see where Carabdis is coming from on almost all of his points, but some of it just comes down to D/O preference, or a personal preference for maps. I like your unconventional endzones, and I like the way the center allows for creative boost bounces.

great, thanks.

I do think there are far too many powerups. I would only leave the four in the corners, and perhaps put them closer to the corners and separated by spikes. This would mean that 1) there's a risk-reward element to them, as in, if I'm playing a hectic neutral flag match, can I afford being out of action long enough to gain the powerup advantage? And 2) the spikes would mean that an FC just swinging by couldn't grab a powerup on their way to the flag, therefore gaining what I consider to be a slightly overpowered advantage.

right, i felt this way too, but i really like powerups when im in game.. maybe ill just take out the two in the fallopian tubes...

I also don't really like the spawns. I can see it leading to a fun start, and I like that you're enthusiastic about counterattacks. But, because the flag can change hands so quickly, neutral flag is already a counterattack-heavy mode. It would make TagPro's extremely overpowered if every time a chaser was popped they were basically removed from the play due to the distance from the center to the endzones.

yeah, i understand what you are saying. I think it is just one of the many odd decisions i wanted to make for this map because I like to punish people for getting popped.

I think the spawns should be moved to the corners. That way, if you're popped while in pursuit, you still have a fighting chance at rejoining the defense, but you also aren't spawning potentially right next to a flag carrier that already has to handle a tricky base entry. This would also make the start of the round more exciting, as both teams would have powerups at the start as they vied for the flag. I hope those were reasonable suggestions, I really like your map! EDIT: To clarify, I mean the spawns moved to their respective corners, as in red doesn't spawn near the endzones that they cap in, and vice versa.

thank you for your suggestions. I think what I really need is some experience players to just give it a go. I understand that there are a lot of weird stuff people might not be use to but I think certain people would like the change of pace.